John Hall wrote in
:

In article ,
Richard Dixon writes:

In defence of Mr McElwee he was showing the lack of lines between Western
England down to central France.

I blame Dr Beeching.

That's one's flown over my head John!

Richard

"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
.163...
John Hall wrote in
:

In article ,
Richard Dixon writes:

In defence of Mr McElwee he was showing the lack of lines between Western
England down to central France.

I blame Dr Beeching.

That's one's flown over my head John!

Lines?
*Railway* lines
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

"Will Hand" wrote in
:

Well GFS 06Z run has 850 hPa of -7C over London on Saturday. I find it
hard to believe that that would mean a max. of 6C? Clearly GFS has not
been followed, which is fair enough, but it shows the possibilities,
writing this one off 5 days away is far too premature in my view.

Maybe I'm never particularly overwhelmed by cold northerly-northwesterlies.
Although in fairness - maxima of 3c in London for Thursday, so clearly not
going with that view in the weekly forecast.

GFS has a much stronger Greenland high than EC/UKMO and if this the key
determinant then goodness knows what is going to happen !

Richard

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:24:47 -0800 (PST), Ken Cook
wrote:

Hi, All,

Rob McElwee, Countryfile made particular note of the lack of wind
today. Copley currently 1220Z 25028KT (F7) gusting 36KT(42mph).
I have said for some time that there is a distinct lack of real-time
obs in Teesdale!

He was referring to the bulk of England, on Monday.

Rob pointed out that on the Monday pressure chart, there was a mere 4
mB pressure difference forecast between Blackpool and Britanny. That,
to me, indicates not much wind!

It was a good level-headed forecast, I thought - with just a hint of
something "interesting" later in the week.

--
Dave

In article ,
Richard Dixon writes:
John Hall wrote in
:

In article ,
Richard Dixon writes:

In defence of Mr McElwee he was showing the lack of lines between Western
England down to central France.

I blame Dr Beeching.

That's one's flown over my head John!

In the 1960s he was responsible for closing a lot of lines (of the
railway variety).
--
John Hall
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin"
attributed to Sir Josiah Stamp,
a former director of the Bank of England

Richard Dixon wrote in
.163:

"Will Hand" wrote in
:

Well GFS 06Z run has 850 hPa of -7C over London on Saturday. I find
it hard to believe that that would mean a max. of 6C? Clearly GFS has
not been followed, which is fair enough, but it shows the
possibilities, writing this one off 5 days away is far too premature
in my view.

Maybe I'm never particularly overwhelmed by cold
northerly-northwesterlies. Although in fairness - maxima of 3c in
London for Thursday, so clearly not going with that view in the weekly
forecast.

Although midday run much milder...

Richard

"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
.163...
"Will Hand" wrote in
:

Well GFS 06Z run has 850 hPa of -7C over London on Saturday. I find it
hard to believe that that would mean a max. of 6C? Clearly GFS has not
been followed, which is fair enough, but it shows the possibilities,
writing this one off 5 days away is far too premature in my view.

Maybe I'm never particularly overwhelmed by cold northerly-northwesterlies.
Although in fairness - maxima of 3c in London for Thursday, so clearly not
going with that view in the weekly forecast.

GFS has a much stronger Greenland high than EC/UKMO and if this the key
determinant then goodness knows what is going to happen !

Richard

The key determinant is the strength of the NW'ly jet coming off southern
Greenland on Weds IMHO.

Will
--

Will Hand wrote:


The key determinant is the strength of the NW'ly jet coming off southern
Greenland on Weds IMHO.

Will
--



Are we looking for a strong or weak NW'ly jet coming off Greenland for
the coldest plunge, my guess would be strong?

--
Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net

"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
...
Will Hand wrote:


The key determinant is the strength of the NW'ly jet coming off southern
Greenland on Weds IMHO.

Will
--



Are we looking for a strong or weak NW'ly jet coming off Greenland for
the coldest plunge, my guess would be strong?


Strong *and* northwesterly, 12Z GFS loses a bit of strength and backs it more
westerly. But then again it is tending towards the double structure evident in
the 00Z run which seemed strange.

Will
--

Will Hand wrote:
"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
.163...
"Will Hand" wrote in
:

Well GFS 06Z run has 850 hPa of -7C over London on Saturday. I find it
hard to believe that that would mean a max. of 6C? Clearly GFS has not
been followed, which is fair enough, but it shows the possibilities,
writing this one off 5 days away is far too premature in my view.
Maybe I'm never particularly overwhelmed by cold northerly-northwesterlies.
Although in fairness - maxima of 3c in London for Thursday, so clearly not
going with that view in the weekly forecast.

GFS has a much stronger Greenland high than EC/UKMO and if this the key
determinant then goodness knows what is going to happen !

Richard

The key determinant is the strength of the NW'ly jet coming off southern
Greenland on Weds IMHO.

Will
--



I know I shouldn't look further ahead, but GFS 12z looks very
interesting beyond next weekend. Maybe we'll have another shot at this then?

--
Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net