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(For some reason I can't post a reply to the previous thread on this
subject, so here's the thread as a new post) From: "Roy Avis" So in the Report output of my Vantage Pro 2 I have the option to produce the overall mean temperatures by either: 1. The Integration Method (I presume this just adds all the reported temperatures up and divides them by the number of reports), or 2. By the simpler (and I presume the Met Office official method) of adding all the Max & Min temps and dividing them by two. I am sure I have stated neither of these method in a true scientific manner (maths was never my forte!!) ----- but!! Which one should I consider to be the true representative - for both (or either!) accuracy and for comparison with past data - or are we (like sunshine hours) creating more rods for our back with all this computer stuff? And - Help! When we say Mean do we mean Average - I always get confused! Best Regards Roy Avis ----- The terms 'mean' and 'average' in statistics are synonymous i.e. they can used interchangeably. There's a slight preference in climatology for 'monthly averages' and 'long-term means' but there's no real difference in what is meant. When it comes to daily mean (or average) temperatures, what you calculate/use depends mostly upon what you're trying to do: - Defining a mean daily temperature as the average of all samples during a day is without doubt the more accurate statistical representation of the day, provided the samples are reasonably frequent (say hourly, or more frequent). An AWS with, say, 5 or 15 min samples gives a very good representation of the true daily mean over the sampling period. For accuracy this is the best method. - The climatological standard in the UK and many other countries is the 1/2 (max+min) method. This has the advantage of being quick and easy to calculate, and is suitable for the vast majority of the historical record where only daily max and min temperatures will be available. Over a period of time it does give a figure very close to the 'true' 24 hour mean, and you can verify this for yourself using your own records. Individual days will, however, often give very differing results. For purposes of historical comparison (comparing with long-term means or extremes) this is the currently preferred method, but as we increase number of sites with a true 24 hour sampled record and the length of those records then this method will I'm sure become standard - possibly for the 1981-2010 normals but more likely the 1991-2020 period (which is the next 'WMO standard' averaging period). You should also consider the effect of terminal hours. A daily mean calculated over 00-00h will be significantly different from that calculated over the standard 09-09 GMT climatological day, so if you are using 00-00h 'mean of all samples' and comparing these to long- term averages based upon 09-09h 1/2 (max+min) you'll introduce two separate sources of error. The errors are significant, and are greater than the typical calibration error of standard sheathed-pattern thermometers. -- Stephen Burt Stratfield Mortimer, Berkshire |
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