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Well, a driver at work wound his window down and informed me today
that it was going to be a poor summer. What..another one?
Yes! And the explanation is that the rooks are nesting half way down
the trees hereabouts.
Well there we have it, gents!

R

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In article ,
Robin Nicholson writes:
Well, a driver at work wound his window down and informed me today
that it was going to be a poor summer. What..another one?
Yes! And the explanation is that the rooks are nesting half way down
the trees hereabouts.
Well there we have it, gents!


That may prove to be a poor (summer forecast) as well as a (poor summer)
forecast.
--
John Hall
"If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts;
but if he will be content to begin with doubts,
he shall end in certainties." Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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"Robin Nicholson" wrote in
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Well, a driver at work wound his window down and informed me today
that it was going to be a poor summer. What..another one?
Yes! And the explanation is that the rooks are nesting half way down
the trees hereabouts.
Well there we have it, gents!

R

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His name wasn't Piers by any chance was it?
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"Robin Nicholson" wrote in
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Well, a driver at work wound his window down and informed me today
that it was going to be a poor summer. What..another one?
Yes! And the explanation is that the rooks are nesting half way down
the trees hereabouts.
Well there we have it, gents!

R


The rooks not far to the south of you haven't heard as they have nested
at the very tops. Too late for them to issue an amendment and move
house.

Tom


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"Robin Nicholson" wrote in
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Well, a driver at work wound his window down and informed me today
that it was going to be a poor summer. What..another one?
Yes! And the explanation is that the rooks are nesting half way down
the trees hereabouts.
Well there we have it, gents!

R


I totally agree with this. Not the rooks nesting idea but from the models
and issue of the forecaters warm wet summer perspective that they issued
some weeks ago now ago now. I think it will be a poor summer. A few fine
days then rain, winds and lower temperatures otherwise known as unsettled.
Theres a great deal of sense attached to Trends. The longer a Trend
continues then the longer possibility of that trend continuing. And you
can't deny the trend this year so far hasn't been all that glorious. I can
make sense of that though others perhaps can't.
I didnt see Will's summer long range - has he made one yet? if he has can he
repost it thanks.
--
resident BBC shill and media sentry: t'wit
[sticky quote about me from Weatherlawyer]
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On Apr 24, 9:28*am, John Hall wrote:
In article ,
*Robin Nicholson writes:

Well, a driver at work wound his window down and informed me today
that it was going to be a poor summer. What..another one?
Yes! And the explanation is that the rooks are nesting half way down
the trees hereabouts.
Well there we have it, gents!


That may prove to be a poor (summer forecast) as well as a (poor summer)
forecast.
--
John Hall
* * * * * *"If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts;
* * * * * * but if he will be content to begin with doubts,
* * * * * * he shall end in certainties." * * * Francis Bacon (1561-1626)


I almost posted exactly the same!

In discussions like this, the name Bill Foggitt usually arises at some
point. Charming old fellow. He had an association with "Calendar" on
Yorkshire TV and other regional magazine programs, which I watched at
the time. He continued his family's keeping of weather records and
trotted out the weather lore that he'd learned from his father and
grandfather and from the records he kept at Thirsk, where he lived.
The % accuracy of the forecasts was highly disputable (he claimed 88%
- for exactly what, I don't know, but memories are fond and some years
after his death, he is remembered as a weather lore seer, whose long-
range forecasts bettered the Met Office's efforts. It was all hugely
entertaining - he really was almost revered in his native Yorkshire
and in all sorts of pockets of weather lore enthusiasm around the
world and some of his shorter-range forecasting was built on sound
principles - I'm not sure about the usefulness of some of his
precursors of the type of approaching season we might have got!

The Grauniad's obituary is a good read. I read the Times' obituary in
2004 with some sadness, I must admit!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2004/...ies.obituaries

Paul
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I seem to remember making the point some weeks ago that due to a feeling in
my water,that this summer would be very average,and now I see that the rooks
agree it's obviously the time to take a rain check (haha).
As more and more pundits seem to agree with the rooks,and presumably Bill
Foggit,this should nicely open the door for sods law to apply and make this
summer a real stonker ,( that's EastEnd speak for bleedin' 'ot )..
I shall now resume my position firmly straddling the fence,and watch what
the 'experts' have to say .....

RonB

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Well, a driver at work wound his window down and informed me today
that it was going to be a poor summer. What..another one?
Yes! And the explanation is that the rooks are nesting half way down
the trees hereabouts.
Well there we have it, gents!

R



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On Apr 24, 10:16 am, "Tom Allen" wrote:
"Robin Nicholson" wrote in
messagenews:n8iv04tnt294pm3edubjd1au9tabfss9oq@4ax .com...

Well, a driver at work wound his window down and informed me today
that it was going to be a poor summer.
What..another one?
Yes! And the explanation is that the rooks are nesting half way down
the trees hereabouts.
Well there we have it, gents!


The rooks not far to the south of you haven't heard as they have nested
at the very tops. Too late for them to issue an amendment and move
house.


Funny thing about regionality is that somewhere over the rainbow,
about longitude 100 or 110 in the USA -if not all of North America,
there is a sharp divide between drought and flood.

That is, during the same period the weather is sharply and rudely
distinct one side of the line from the other.

Perhaps these animals are instinctively wise enough to know where to
park their arrises.

Of course it is well known that the more mature and healthy a bird is,
the better its nesting site is likely to be. And that the
inexperienced and unhealthy ones tend to end up with the poorest
premisses.

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Well.. the year does end in an 8. Enough said......

Jim.



"Robin Nicholson" wrote in
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Well, a driver at work wound his window down and informed me today
that it was going to be a poor summer. What..another one?
Yes! And the explanation is that the rooks are nesting half way down
the trees hereabouts.
Well there we have it, gents!

R




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