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On May 21, 4:43*am, "Dave R." wrote:
Yesterday i was so downtrodden when I saw Darrens model report and looking at the Unisys GFS 9 day plate showing domination of low pressure but today I go to the same run at Unisys and see behold! a week of increasingly warm temperatures with a scandy High now firmly in charge. What the f**k is going on? This is running right through till May 29th Thursday week! *I know these runs can change daily or even hourly but the whole damn thing is so confusing. Are we in for a good week next week or not? I suppose one would not even hazard a guess I thought there were some good people willing to stick teir neck out here but it seems Will of Tor has disappeared -- Dave R. [west London] You did sound downtrodden, Dave, but I didn't really think there was any need to be. The models have been suggesting a slow warm up since before last weekend's cold spell and a couple of runs of low-pressure domination didn't change that, for me. It's not entirely perfect sunbathing weather, but if that Azores high does make a move for the UK, later next week could be very nice, after a short, but probably abortive, attempt by lower pressure to push Westwards. Have you had any of that pleasant sunshine in dry old London town, Dave? The sunshine in Devon has been terrific again, but it is still cool in the wind. Paul |
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 04:43:29 +0100, "Dave R." wrote:
Are we in for a good week next week or not? I suppose one would not even hazard a guess I thought there were some good people willing to stick teir neck out here but it seems Will of Tor has disappeared Next week can sort itself out - I have a big open air event on Saturday in Dorset and I am trying to gather some info on that! R |
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On May 20, 11:05 pm, Robin Nicholson
wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2008 04:43:29 +0100, "Dave R." wrote: Are we in for a good week next week or not? I suppose one would not even hazard a guess I thought there were some good people willing to stick teir neck out here but it seems Will of Tor has disappeared Next week can sort itself out - I have a big open air event on Saturday in Dorset and I am trying to gather some info on that! R I have been monitoring the jet stream since someone post this link http://virga.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_norhem_00.gif here. What seems to be happening is that a strong jet running over the Mediterranean is collapsing, and a new jet is building up which is running through Scandanavia. If this continues, then instead of us being in a polar air mass, we will be in a sub tropical one. This is spoken with all the confidence of one who has been monitoring the Jet Stream for almost two weeks now :-)) Cheers, Alastair. |
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![]() "Dawlish" wrote in message ... Have you had any of that pleasant sunshine in dry old London town, Dave? The sunshine in Devon has been terrific again, but it is still cool in the wind. Paul west London was about 6/8 octares after midday which varied throughout the afternoon but I was in Slough for most of that and as is often the case very different just west of Heathrow - the cloud broke up there more. I have an inclination to think it has something to do with the flight paths. The Denham Colnbrook Slough triangle can often be brighter when east of this is dull and cloudy you can easily see the effect all times of the year as you drive out on the A40/M40 When I got back to west London about 4pm it was pretty cloudy again with only brief intervals despite the forecast of cloud breaking up soon to form the oncoming clear evening.. Anyway tomorrow is expected to be less cloudy and they forecast 19C, up 2 on today. I think we lost the nagging cold wind tomorrow as indeed most of the south will have lost it too. DaveR |
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Yesterday i was so downtrodden when I saw Darrens model report and looking
at the Unisys GFS 9 day plate showing domination of low pressure but today I go to the same run at Unisys and see behold! a week of increasingly warm temperatures with a scandy High now firmly in charge. What the f**k is going on? This is running right through till May 29th Thursday week! I know these runs can change daily or even hourly but the whole damn thing is so confusing. Are we in for a good week next week or not? I suppose one would not even hazard a guess I thought there were some good people willing to stick teir neck out here but it seems Will of Tor has disappeared -- Dave R. [west London] |
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On May 21, 12:08*am, "Dave R." wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message ... Have you had any of that pleasant sunshine in dry old London town, Dave? The sunshine in Devon has been terrific again, but it is still cool in the wind. Paul west London was about 6/8 octares after midday which varied throughout the afternoon but I was in Slough for most of that and as is often the case very different just west of Heathrow - the cloud broke up there more. I have an inclination to think it has something to do with the flight paths. The Denham Colnbrook Slough triangle can often be brighter when east of this is dull and cloudy you can easily see the effect all times of the year as you drive out on the A40/M40 When I got back to west London about 4pm it was pretty cloudy again with only brief intervals despite the forecast of cloud breaking up soon to form the oncoming clear evening.. Anyway tomorrow is expected to be less cloudy and they forecast 19C, up 2 on today. I think we lost the nagging cold wind tomorrow as indeed most of the south will have lost it too. DaveR You may get some rain in London on Bank holiday Monday, Dave, but, at present, I'd judge that the influence of the high pressure to the North will keep much of that rain to the South of the UK. It may well stay dry in most areas over the bank holiday weekend, with only areas South of the M4 being affected by cloud and rain, but I have a sneaky suspicion that even these areas will stay largely dry over the 3 days. Clear a path to the front of the shed, would be my advice, but don't shift the barbie to the front just yet, if you live South of the M4. Anywhere North of the M4 should have a dry and sunny Bank Holiday weekend. Like I said yesterday, I don't see the Bank holiday as a washout for all of us in the South. The situation is similar to last weekend, but not the same. I would avoid crossing the channel, however and spending the holiday weekend in Northern France, if you are looking for sun! Paul |
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Alastair wrote in message
... On May 20, 11:05 pm, Robin Nicholson wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2008 04:43:29 +0100, "Dave R." wrote: Are we in for a good week next week or not? I suppose one would not even hazard a guess I thought there were some good people willing to stick teir neck out here but it seems Will of Tor has disappeared Next week can sort itself out - I have a big open air event on Saturday in Dorset and I am trying to gather some info on that! R I have been monitoring the jet stream since someone post this link http://virga.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_norhem_00.gif Is it just my browser/monitor or is it not possible to distinguish 50 knot from 150 knot winds, from that grey-scale banding? |
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N_Cook wrote:
I have been monitoring the jet stream since someone post this link http://virga.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_norhem_00.gif Is it just my browser/monitor or is it not possible to distinguish 50 knot from 150 knot winds, from that grey-scale banding? Apart from the 150kt winds being surrounded by the grey shading of 60-150kt winds, no. 50 and 150 are both white. [As viewed in Gwenview] -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy. "What use is happiness? It can't buy you money." [Chic Murray, 1919-85] |
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Graham P Davis wrote in message
... N_Cook wrote: I have been monitoring the jet stream since someone post this link http://virga.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_norhem_00.gif Is it just my browser/monitor or is it not possible to distinguish 50 knot from 150 knot winds, from that grey-scale banding? Apart from the 150kt winds being surrounded by the grey shading of 60-150kt winds, no. 50 and 150 are both white. [As viewed in Gwenview] -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy. "What use is happiness? It can't buy you money." [Chic Murray, 1919-85] And looking more closely eg about lat 35N, long 70W on the current chart at that url then the white patch does not appear to have an "isobar" around it which presumably suggests it is 0 to 50 rather than 150 knots. 60 to 70 knot areas have less than 60 if there is no boundary on that side and a boundary for the 80 knot side. So the white patch at 45N, 160W has a boundary so 150 knot there -- General electronic repairs, most things repaired, other than TVs and PCs http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/repairs.htm Diverse Devices, Southampton, England |
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![]() "Dave R." wrote in message ... Yesterday i was so downtrodden when I saw Darrens model report and looking at the Unisys GFS 9 day plate showing domination of low pressure but today I go to the same run at Unisys and see behold! a week of increasingly warm temperatures with a scandy High now firmly in charge. What the f**k is going on? This is running right through till May 29th Thursday week! I know these runs can change daily or even hourly but the whole damn thing is so confusing. Are we in for a good week next week or not? I suppose one would not even hazard a guess I thought there were some good people willing to stick teir neck out here but it seems Will of Tor has disappeared -- Dave R. [west London] Now its all change yet again since my initial depression turned optimistic. No southerlies next week at all! Unisys GFS plates show Easterlies now with Low Pressure tro the South a dire set up if ever there was one for Southern England. Only does the 31st May look more promising. I begin to wonder what the point of it all is. http://weather.unisys.com/gfsx/9pane...panel_eur.html Dave R |
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