Updated today:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...008/index.html

Very little change from the original, issued on 3rd April:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/.../forecast.html

Paul

"Dawlish" wrote in message
...
Updated today:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...008/index.html

UK forecast for remainder of Summer 2008

Temperature
We continue to predict an enhanced chance of more frequent cloudy and cool
spells compared to recent summers prior to 2007. Nevertheless, mean
temperatures are more likely to be above the 1971-2000 average.

Rainfall
Our forecasting methods favour above-average or near-average rainfall for
the remainder of the summer period.


Geez How grim can THAT be. Now all thats left till Autumn arrives (which
ain't long now) is eternal optimism, (the main thrust of this newsgroups
devotees) or we cling to the usual " it could be worse" comments - well
don't bother with either, I already know.

DaveR

On Jun 25, 3:23*pm, "Dave R." wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message

...

Updated today:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...008/index.html

UK forecast for remainder of Summer 2008

Temperature
We continue to predict an enhanced chance of more frequent cloudy and cool
spells compared to recent summers prior to 2007. Nevertheless, mean
temperatures are more likely to be above the 1971-2000 average.

Rainfall
Our forecasting methods favour above-average or near-average rainfall for
the remainder of the summer period.

Geez How grim can THAT be. Now all thats left till Autumn arrives (which
ain't long now) is eternal optimism, (the main thrust of this newsgroups
devotees) or we cling to the usual " it could be worse" comments - well
don't bother with either, I already know.

DaveR

On Jun 25, 3:23*pm, "Dave R." wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message

...

Updated today:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...008/index.html

UK forecast for remainder of Summer 2008

Temperature
We continue to predict an enhanced chance of more frequent cloudy and cool
spells compared to recent summers prior to 2007. Nevertheless, mean
temperatures are more likely to be above the 1971-2000 average.

Rainfall
Our forecasting methods favour above-average or near-average rainfall for
the remainder of the summer period.

Geez How grim can THAT be. Now all thats left till Autumn arrives (which
ain't long now) is eternal optimism, (the main thrust of this newsgroups
devotees) or we cling to the usual " it could be worse" comments - well
don't bother with either, I already know.

DaveR

Honestly, you are living in the wrong country, Dave. This is a
forecast which reflects the "typical" British summer. This is what we
get from our position on the Western edge of a continent facing a
large ocean. The forecast implies warmth and sunshine, from time to
time and possibly more of it than we might expect, if we took the long-
term average into account.

Dave; what exactly do you expect from our summer?

Paul

"Dawlish" wrote in message
...
On Jun 25, 3:23 pm, "Dave R." wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message

...

Updated today:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...008/index.html

UK forecast for remainder of Summer 2008

Temperature
We continue to predict an enhanced chance of more frequent cloudy and cool
spells compared to recent summers prior to 2007. Nevertheless, mean
temperatures are more likely to be above the 1971-2000 average.

Rainfall
Our forecasting methods favour above-average or near-average rainfall for
the remainder of the summer period.

Geez How grim can THAT be. Now all thats left till Autumn arrives (which
ain't long now) is eternal optimism, (the main thrust of this newsgroups
devotees) or we cling to the usual " it could be worse" comments - well
don't bother with either, I already know.

DaveR

Honestly, you are living in the wrong country, Dave. This is a
forecast which reflects the "typical" British summer. This is what we
get from our position on the Western edge of a continent facing a
large ocean. The forecast implies warmth and sunshine, from time to
time and possibly more of it than we might expect, if we took the long-
term average into account.

Dave; what exactly do you expect from our summer?

I think he expects a Mediterranean style climate in southern England.
Apart from in the most exceptional summers, such conditions don't
normally persist for more than a week or so at a time.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

"Col" wrote in message
...

"Dawlish" wrote in message
Dave; what exactly do you expect from our summer?

I think he expects a Mediterranean style climate in southern England.
Apart from in the most exceptional summers, such conditions don't
normally persist for more than a week or so at a time.
--
Col

Paul and Col
You have the wrong idea of me. Every summer we have is not an averageone
though. Thats my reply.
DR

On Jun 25, 4:33*pm, "Dave R." wrote:
"Col" wrote in message

...



"Dawlish" wrote in message
Dave; what exactly do you expect from our summer?

I think he expects a Mediterranean style climate in southern England.
Apart from in the most exceptional summers, such conditions don't
normally persist for more than a week or so at a time.
--
Col

Paul and Col
You have the wrong idea of me. Every summer we have is not an averageone
though. Thats my reply.
DR

You are right; for a combination of rainfall, sunshine and
temperature, NO UK summer has ever been average. However, in most of
your messages, you appear to be searching for an above average summer
for the last two of those and a below average one for the first. What
you are wanting appears to be a much better than average British
summer, which is fine; that would suit me too. It's just that a much
better than average summer is, by definition unusual, but you appear
to think that we should get one and you are constantly grumpy in this
"typical" 2008 summer, when we aren't getting one (so far). That
doesn't add up.

What do you want out of a British summer is my question and forgive me
for saying, but what you gave wasn't an answer! *))

Paul

"Dawlish" wrote in message
...
On Jun 25, 4:33 pm, "Dave R." wrote:
"Col" wrote in message

...
What do you want out of a British summer is my question and forgive me
for saying, but what you gave wasn't an answer! *))
Paul

Well now you are asking, what I want out of a British summer is longer
spells of anticyclonic weather with the anticyclone in the most favorable
place for decent warmth.... +25c late June is not unreasonable were I am
located ( which will of course exclude an Anticyclone to the North, North
West and West for that matter, like really we have had over the past
months). I think this is, briefly, on the cards soon for a few days in the
outlook. I also want warmth and expect to have a run of cyclonic westerlies
so that comes with the package because of course rain is required to make
things grow.
Now I am lampooned because I grumble whenever I see an outlook like that you
had posted from the Met today. It sorta writes it off despite its only a
forecast but I have a great faith in it being so, strangely. But this is
just my nature.

I dont think its unreasonable to expect it to be a little warmer by the 25th
June but evidently those on here do. I tell you something its far from balmy
this evening thats for sure and the woolies, hot water bottle, central
heating has rarely been off so far this year. Now this is normal for you I
guess most years. Its coming to understand this that I have have a problem
with.
DR

"Dave R." wrote in message
et...

Well now you are asking, what I want out of a British summer is longer
spells of anticyclonic weather with the anticyclone in the most favorable
place for decent warmth.... +25c late June is not unreasonable were I am
located ( which will of course exclude an Anticyclone to the North, North
West and West for that matter, like really we have had over the past
months). I think this is, briefly, on the cards soon for a few days in the
outlook. I also want warmth and expect to have a run of cyclonic
westerlies so that comes with the package because of course rain is
required to make things grow.
Now I am lampooned because I grumble whenever I see an outlook like that
you had posted from the Met today. It sorta writes it off despite its only
a forecast but I have a great faith in it being so, strangely. But this is
just my nature.

I dont think its unreasonable to expect it to be a little warmer by the
25th June but evidently those on here do. I tell you something its far
from balmy this evening thats for sure and the woolies, hot water bottle,
central heating has rarely been off so far this year. Now this is normal
for you I guess most years. Its coming to understand this that I have have
a problem with.
DR

Many of us feel the same Dave, but at least you live in the sunny SE,
nearest to our Euro neighbours who enjoy a proper summers and sunny settled
winters. Nature operates a similar scoring system to the Eurovision song
contest. Poor old Blighty is always hopeful but somehow inevitably gets
disappointed.

What keeps us all here? The rain, the wind or the tax?