http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7503060.stm

I remember hand-plotting the data from these ice-floe stations in the
60s.

Martin.


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NGR: SU 082 023

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:44:51 +0100, "Martin Rowley"
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7503060.stm

Shame about the distance scale in the lower-left corner.


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Martin Rowley wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7503060.stm

I remember hand-plotting the data from these ice-floe stations in the
60s.


And also the American ice-islands T3 and Arliss-2 I suppose? I think when I
first got involved with Arctic Ice conditions the Russian bases were SP-9
and SP-10 - they almost always had two in the Arctic. The American bases
were on ice islands (tabular bergs) and so were not at the risk of breakup
until they got evicted from the anticyclonic current in the western Arctic.
Those two bases existed on and off for twenty years or so, whereas the
Russian bases drifted across the Arctic towards the Fram Strait and would
have to be evacuated after about a couple of years.

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"Martin Rowley" wrote in message
...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7503060.stm

I remember hand-plotting the data from these ice-floe stations in the 60s.

Martin.


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Martin Rowley
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Lat: 50.82N Long: 01.88W
NGR: SU 082 023


There are 2 points I would like to make about the current state of the
arctic sea-ice.

The first is at:-

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/i...s/N_timeseries.

This shows that the sea-ice is disappearing less rapidly than in 2007 and
secondly:-

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/...&sd=25&sy=2007

The ice at 10 July seemed to be melting less quickly along the north coast
of Asia than last year.I realise that there may
be errors in the way the evidence is collected and that not too much should
be read into this relatively small
piece of data anyway. Nevertheless, it is intriguing and it will be
interesting to see how the rest of the melting season develops.

Peter Clarke
Ewell, Epsom

On Jul 13, 4:26*pm, "peter clarke" wrote:
"Martin Rowley" wrote in message

...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7503060.stm

I remember hand-plotting the data from these ice-floe stations in the 60s.

Martin.

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Martin Rowley
West Moors, East Dorset (UK): 17m (56ft) amsl
Lat: 50.82N * Long: 01.88W
NGR: SU 082 023

There are 2 points I would like to make about the current state of the
arctic sea-ice.

The first is *at:-

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/i...s/N_timeseries.

This shows that the sea-ice is disappearing *less rapidly than in 2007 and
secondly:-

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/...&fd=25&fy=2008...

The ice at 10 July seemed to be melting less quickly along the north coast
of Asia than last year.I realise that there may
*be errors in the way the evidence is collected and that not too much should
be read into this relatively small
piece of data anyway. Nevertheless, it is intriguing and it will be
interesting to see how the rest of the melting season develops.

Peter Clarke
Ewell, Epsom

Peter,

Using you links it looks as though the ice in 1998 was similar to that
today.
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/...&sd=12&sy=1998

However, since there is less multi-year ice this year than in 1998,
presumablly the final result in September will be different.

Cheers, Alastair.

"peter clarke" wrote:

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/...&sd=25&sy=2007


There seems to be something seriously wrong with
the planet on those images - or is it just me?



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Sleepalot wrote:
"peter clarke" wrote:

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/...&sd=25&sy=2007


There seems to be something seriously wrong with
the planet on those images - or is it just me?




You are looking onto the top of the planet, so that the artic is in the
centre of the photo.

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Wolverhampton
175m asl

Joe Egginton wrote:

Sleepalot wrote:
"peter clarke" wrote:


http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/...&sd=25&sy=2007


There seems to be something seriously wrong with
the planet on those images - or is it just me?




You are looking onto the top of the planet, so that the artic is in the
centre of the photo.


Can't see it. Has it fallen through the ice?

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On Aug 6, 11:04*am, Graham P Davis wrote:
Joe Egginton wrote:
Sleepalot wrote:
"peter clarke" wrote:

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/...&fd=25&fy=2008...



There seems to be something seriously wrong with
the planet on those images - or is it just me?

You are looking onto the top of the planet, so that the artic is in the
centre of the photo.

Can't see it. Has it fallen through the ice?

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*))

Joe Egginton wrote:

Sleepalot wrote:
"peter clarke" wrote:

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/...&sd=25&sy=2007


There seems to be something seriously wrong with
the planet on those images - or is it just me?




You are looking onto the top of the planet, so that the artic is in the
centre of the photo.

Yes, so how come the image is oblate? Shouldn't it be circular?


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