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On Jul 15, 5:24*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 15, 2:45*pm, "Dave R." wrote:

Yet again the latest optimistic outlook for an Azores push is thwarted. 21
July 2008 to Sunday 27 July 2008 Cool and Unsettled extension made to an
otherwise thought of settling up. Well its not going to happen.
Haven't we heard it time and time again throughout the months of this wash
out of a summer well here it is again from Darren Bett's recent update on
the outlook. Its what I said ages ago so I'm the winner here by miles.
Dave R.


How do you "know" it's not going to happen and how can you be the
"winner by miles" when summer is only half-way over? I'd be the first
to say "good guess" if you are correct, as to the outcome of the whole
summer (and you could well be)but I think Mon - Thurs next week has a
chance (but just a chance, let's see on this one) of being the best
part of the summer so far, for Southern Britain, with a UK max of 25C
being recorded on each of those 4 consecutive days. As for you knowing
exactly what will happen during the rest of the summer, or "knowing"
what the first half of the summer would have been like.......don't
make me laugh, Dave: your guess is/was almost as good as the MetOs.
*))

Areas of west London with 25C+ and sunshine this late afternoon.
Warmest-feeling day of the year in South Devon. Cooler and wetter for
most areas towards the weekend.

Paul


OOOOOOh! Now that is interesting! The hints of "summer" arriving have
grown stronger overnight. Probably the greatest chance of an extended
(week, or so? Maybe a lot more) of high pressure dominance for the UK
and settled warm weather of the summer so far. The gfs shows such a
difference set-up at T240+ and the ems also shows the Azores high
building NE at T240. Not enogh confidence yet, that's the first time
that's appeared and there's only been two runs. It could be the
teasing that Dave R has rightly referred to again and another few gfs
runs could see the hints evaporating again, but if that is still there
tomorrow Morning, this fairly average summer, for some (disappointing
for others) could end up taking a turn for the better!

Next week still looks very good for Southern England, with a settled,
warm and sunny 4-day period from Monday.

Paul

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On Jul 15, 5:24 pm, Dawlish wrote:
another few gfs
runs could see the hints evaporating again, but if that is still there
tomorrow Morning, this fairly average summer, for some (disappointing
for others) could end up taking a turn for the better!


Seems hint evaporation according to DP on his this morning's NWP.

Next week still looks very good for Southern England, with a settled,
warm and sunny 4-day period from Monday.


Thats whats been happening since May - 3 or 4 days settled spells with the
inbetweens being huge long weeks of anti summer type days.
Now there's a good expression to use, anti summer! must give that to Dan C.
on the TV
--
Dave R. [west London]

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On Jul 16, 8:06 am, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 15, 5:24 pm, Dawlish wrote:



On Jul 15, 2:45 pm, "Dave R." wrote:


Yet again the latest optimistic outlook for an Azores push is thwarted. 21
July 2008 to Sunday 27 July 2008 Cool and Unsettled extension made to an
otherwise thought of settling up. Well its not going to happen.
Haven't we heard it time and time again throughout the months of this wash
out of a summer well here it is again from Darren Bett's recent update on
the outlook. Its what I said ages ago so I'm the winner here by miles.
Dave R.


How do you "know" it's not going to happen and how can you be the
"winner by miles" when summer is only half-way over? I'd be the first
to say "good guess" if you are correct, as to the outcome of the whole
summer (and you could well be)but I think Mon - Thurs next week has a
chance (but just a chance, let's see on this one) of being the best
part of the summer so far, for Southern Britain, with a UK max of 25C
being recorded on each of those 4 consecutive days. As for you knowing
exactly what will happen during the rest of the summer, or "knowing"
what the first half of the summer would have been like.......don't
make me laugh, Dave: your guess is/was almost as good as the MetOs.
*))


Areas of west London with 25C+ and sunshine this late afternoon.
Warmest-feeling day of the year in South Devon. Cooler and wetter for
most areas towards the weekend.


Paul


OOOOOOh! Now that is interesting! The hints of "summer" arriving have
grown stronger overnight. Probably the greatest chance of an extended
(week, or so? Maybe a lot more) of high pressure dominance for the UK
and settled warm weather of the summer so far. The gfs shows such a
difference set-up at T240+ and the ems also shows the Azores high
building NE at T240. Not enogh confidence yet, that's the first time
that's appeared and there's only been two runs. It could be the
teasing that Dave R has rightly referred to again and another few gfs
runs could see the hints evaporating again, but if that is still there
tomorrow Morning, this fairly average summer, for some (disappointing
for others) could end up taking a turn for the better!

Next week still looks very good for Southern England, with a settled,
warm and sunny 4-day period from Monday.

Paul


Looks like Sun-Wed from current output, Thursday might possibly be a
bit thundery, but warm.
I guess longer term it depends what happens after the thundery low on
the GFS around the 25th. At present the GFS indicates high pressure
builds again. Let's hope this happens...

Nick
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