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On Jul 22, 3:59*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 21, 11:53*pm, Steve Willington
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On Jul 21, 10:50*pm, "Nick Gardner"


wrote:
Nights in the SW, this week? Pretty perfect, I would think. Mild and


bearable. I'm just excited by the chance of some lovely summer
weather!


Being in a rural, valley location near the sea, the nights always have
managed to cool down. Even in 2006, the warmest night of that year was in
early September, and that was only 17.7°C (5th). Nights that stay above 17°C
are quite rare.


Quite different to when I lived in London as a student, I remember nights
where the temperature stayed in the 20s, and some nights where it was still
25°C+ at midnight. August 1997 was particularly bad with many a sticky,
uncomfortably hot night, something akin to the Med.


Methinks that Thursday will be a hot one. I reckon that the beach will be
where you'll find me, taking a long, cooling dip in that there briny.
________________
Nick.
Otter Valley, Devon
83 m amslhttp://www.ottervalley.co.uk


High of 20.7C here today, at work so again missed a pleasant day.


Personally I've never been keen on the cool summer nights here, gets
chilly too quickly in the evenings.


Just hoping that the weather lasts long enough for a BBQ at the end of
my run of shifts.....


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It might do, Steve! All sorts of chances of that heat lasting into the
start of August now. It's like someone has burst North Africa's bubble
allowing hot air to escape into Western Europe. If those charts
verify, the last third of July will have been very warm in the South
and East of the UK. It's not just us either. Like, I've said,
scandinavia is in for a heatwave and the rest of Western Europe looks
hot over the next 10 days, at least.

Evening/night-time temperatures in the UK look warm and if you can
avoid the odd thundery shower, it could be perfect BBQ weather on some
of the coming late July evenings and perfect beach weather in the
daytime, away from the NW.

Paul, feeling a sizzle coming on.- Hide quoted text -

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Some areas having a little sizzle today, but it's not as warm as it
looked like it would be 3 days ago. There's also some changes to the
outlook, since then There's a battle going on between low pressure to
our South-West and high pressure to our North-East and it now looks
much more like the Atlantic will out, rather than the high pressure.
Both the gfs and the ECM show low pressure having finally overcome the
Scandinavian block by T240. If that verifies, the first week of
August, in much of the UK, would be unsettled and cooler. Yeuch. The
SE and the East are still very likely to have the best of the
weather.

On the other hand, Europe still looks very hot to the start of August,
but the NW fringes get progressively cooler as the first week
progresses and I fear that is more likely to be the case, than the
heat staying for us. *((

Paul


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Oh dear, another wrong forecast.
How many is that now?
Im keeping stats as well you know.


Dawlish wrote:

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Some areas having a little sizzle today, but it's not as warm as it
looked like it would be 3 days ago. There's also some changes to the
outlook,
Paul

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On Jul 21, 7:54*am, Dawlish wrote:
Away from the NW, there's some lovely weather coming this week. It's
been on the gfs and the ECM, for a while and I see no reason to change
my view that a UK max of 25C will be achieved on most of the days this
week and that the warmest day of the year, so far, will be achieved by
next Monday.

After that, a blocking high over the Baltic splits the jet. It's good
news for the Eastern side of Britain, at least, apart from the actual
coasts which could be plagued by sea fogs, especially in Scotland.
Nothing cold in this, with some warm nights and the CET should rise to
closer to average over the last 10 days of the month.

By the 1st August, at T+264, the high may be beginning to decline,
allowing fronts into the West, but the only rain on those charts for
the SE, until then, is from possible thunderstorms this weekend.

So, it took some time, but summer is here, for most. Enjoy. Now how
can I skive off work??

Paul


28.2C was the warmest UK max this year, so far. Not a great clain to
fame, by mid July, but I think that that has been on the charts for a
while. it's not enough for me to win my warm weather bets for July,
yet, but the warmth isn't yet ended and next week could still manage
some even higher temperatures than the UK max this week.

Paul
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No need to rub it in.

Second day of dense haar around Dundee, currently 14.3C, strong
easterling wind, and my rain gauge is just about to tip ...


Trevor Haarley
Near non-Bonnie Dundee

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On Jul 25, 10:46*am, Trevor Harley wrote:
No need to rub it in.

Second day of dense haar around Dundee, currently 14.3C, strong
easterling wind, and my rain gauge is just about to tip ...

Trevor Haarley
Near non-Bonnie Dundee


Would these help Trevor?

1300 : Cambridge 26C sunny, Oxford 23C broken cloud. No haar. *))

Paaul


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On Jul 21, 7:54*am, Dawlish wrote:
Away from the NW, there's some lovely weather coming this week. It's
been on the gfs and the ECM, for a while and I see no reason to change
my view that a UK max of 25C will be achieved on most of the days this
week and that the warmest day of the year, so far, will be achieved by
next Monday.

After that, a blocking high over the Baltic splits the jet. It's good
news for the Eastern side of Britain, at least, apart from the actual
coasts which could be plagued by sea fogs, especially in Scotland.
Nothing cold in this, with some warm nights and the CET should rise to
closer to average over the last 10 days of the month.

By the 1st August, at T+264, the high may be beginning to decline,
allowing fronts into the West, but the only rain on those charts for
the SE, until then, is from possible thunderstorms this weekend.

So, it took some time, but summer is here, for most. Enjoy. Now how
can I skive off work??

Paul


Poor old Trevor's had his haar, but nearly everywhere else, including
the NW of Scotland is doing well in this warm spell. Can we manage 30C
(and on a selfish note, 30.6C!)?

The thunderstorms are next. Some high Cape Lifted figures, through the
weekend, but especially for Monday and the FAX charts, with that low
pushing into the SW on Monday, look very exciting for storms. Metcheck
have a weather watch out for storms this weekend and into next week.
It'll be interesting to see if the Lifted index stays at those values
and when the Met Office comes on board for the weather warnings. None
yet.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn6611.png

Still looks like things will begin to cool by the 3rd and it looks
like the high will have begun to pull away by the 1st.

Paul
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Poor old Trevor's had his haar, but nearly everywhere else,


You can say that again.

The east coast of Scotland, with this sort of summer weather set-up,
must be one of the most miserable places in the world in which to live.

I am looking out of my window now (because it's too cold to step
outside), with the haar drifting like smoke around the garden. Even the
birds have given up and are skulking under the hedgerow. The only ray
of sunshine (strictly metaphorical) is that the wind is less strong
than it has been for the last few days, and so we might eventually see
some real sun and the temperature might get up as high as, oh, the high
teens.

Trevor
Somewhere (he can't see where exactly) near Dundee


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On Jul 26, 8:12*am, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 21, 7:54*am, Dawlish wrote:





Away from the NW, there's some lovely weather coming this week. It's
been on the gfs and the ECM, for a while and I see no reason to change
my view that a UK max of 25C will be achieved on most of the days this
week and that the warmest day of the year, so far, will be achieved by
next Monday.


After that, a blocking high over the Baltic splits the jet. It's good
news for the Eastern side of Britain, at least, apart from the actual
coasts which could be plagued by sea fogs, especially in Scotland.
Nothing cold in this, with some warm nights and the CET should rise to
closer to average over the last 10 days of the month.


By the 1st August, at T+264, the high may be beginning to decline,
allowing fronts into the West, but the only rain on those charts for
the SE, until then, is from possible thunderstorms this weekend.


So, it took some time, but summer is here, for most. Enjoy. Now how
can I skive off work??


Paul


Poor old Trevor's had his haar, but nearly everywhere else, including
the NW of Scotland is doing well in this warm spell. Can we manage 30C
(and on a selfish note, 30.6C!)?

The thunderstorms are next. Some high Cape Lifted figures, through the
weekend, but especially for Monday and the FAX charts, with that low
pushing into the SW on Monday, look very exciting for storms. Metcheck
have a weather watch out for storms this weekend and into next week.
It'll be interesting to see if the Lifted index stays at those values
and when the Met Office comes on board for the weather warnings. None
yet.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn6611.png

Still looks like things will begin to cool by the 3rd and it looks
like the high will have begun to pull away by the 1st.

Paul- Hide quoted text -

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Met office now have weather advisories out for the SW, Mon and Tue.
Could be fun!

Paul
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On Jul 21, 7:54*am, Dawlish wrote:
Away from the NW, there's some lovely weather coming this week. It's
been on the gfs and the ECM, for a while and I see no reason to change
my view that a UK max of 25C will be achieved on most of the days this
week and that the warmest day of the year, so far, will be achieved by
next Monday.

After that, a blocking high over the Baltic splits the jet. It's good
news for the Eastern side of Britain, at least, apart from the actual
coasts which could be plagued by sea fogs, especially in Scotland.
Nothing cold in this, with some warm nights and the CET should rise to
closer to average over the last 10 days of the month.

By the 1st August, at T+264, the high may be beginning to decline,
allowing fronts into the West, but the only rain on those charts for
the SE, until then, is from possible thunderstorms this weekend.

So, it took some time, but summer is here, for most. Enjoy. Now how
can I skive off work??

Paul


Not a bad assessment. Maybe missing the intensity of the rain, in some
areas, towards the end, but the haars were there, as were the
thunderstorms. The days of 25C+ UK max were certainly there and the
warmest day of the year was achieved on successive days (and a small
profit, for me, on betfair!). it was the best week of the year (OK,
some don't like it hotter) for meany areas. The CET is rising and will
probably end up close to the average.

I don't see any reason to change my 10 day forecast for the 3rd. Going
well.

Paul
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On Jul 21, 7:54*am, Dawlish wrote:
Away from the NW, there's some lovely weather coming this week. It's
been on the gfs and the ECM, for a while and I see no reason to change
my view that a UK max of 25C will be achieved on most of the days this
week and that the warmest day of the year, so far, will be achieved by
next Monday.

After that, a blocking high over the Baltic splits the jet. It's good
news for the Eastern side of Britain, at least, apart from the actual
coasts which could be plagued by sea fogs, especially in Scotland.
Nothing cold in this, with some warm nights and the CET should rise to
closer to average over the last 10 days of the month.

By the 1st August, at T+264, the high may be beginning to decline,
allowing fronts into the West, but the only rain on those charts for
the SE, until then, is from possible thunderstorms this weekend.

So, it took some time, but summer is here, for most. Enjoy. Now how
can I skive off work??

Paul




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