We speculated a few months ago about the possibilty of a new low
record this summer, given the amount of first year ice. It now seem a
record is highly unlikely. This graph shows the rate of melting was
quite a lot slower in early July compared with last year.

http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaice...17_Figure2.png

The next page outlines the main differences between last summer and
the current one.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/index.html

This points out the circulation over the Artic is less favourable for
ice loss.

On Jul 30, 9:21*pm, Mike Tullett wrote:
We speculated a few months ago about the possibilty of a new low
record this summer, given the amount of first year ice. *It now seem a
record is highly unlikely. *This graph shows the rate of melting was
quite a lot slower in early July compared with last year.

*http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaice...17_Figure2.png

The next page outlines the main differences between last summer and
the current one.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/index.html

This points out the circulation over the Artic is less favourable for
ice loss.

Yes Mike
I was prepared to wager Dawlish Fifty English Pounds -of course I
wouldn't have taken it for myself ; nope I would have donated to the
'Folk Made Deaf By Exposure To Tudor Hughes Trombone Playing ' fund.

Known as THTPDF. Someone has to stand up for these people.

On Jul 30, 9:48*pm, wrote:
On Jul 30, 9:21*pm, Mike Tullett wrote:

We speculated a few months ago about the possibilty of a new low
record this summer, given the amount of first year ice. *It now seem a
record is highly unlikely. *This graph shows the rate of melting was
quite a lot slower in early July compared with last year.

*http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaice...17_Figure2.png

The next page outlines the main differences between last summer and
the current one.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/index.html

This points out the circulation over the Artic is less favourable for
ice loss.

Yes Mike
I was prepared to wager Dawlish Fifty English Pounds -of course I
wouldn't have taken it for myself ; nope I would have donated to the
'Folk Made Deaf By Exposure To Tudor Hughes Trombone Playing ' fund.

Known as THTPDF. *Someone has to stand up for these people.

Heh, heh! *)) How about a couple of virtual pints at evens? It'll be
very close, come September.

Paul

On Jul 30, 9:48*pm, wrote:
On Jul 30, 9:21*pm, Mike Tullett wrote:

We speculated a few months ago about the possibilty of a new low
record this summer, given the amount of first year ice. *It now seem a
record is highly unlikely. *This graph shows the rate of melting was
quite a lot slower in early July compared with last year.

*http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaice...17_Figure2.png

The next page outlines the main differences between last summer and
the current one.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/index.html

This points out the circulation over the Artic is less favourable for
ice loss.

Yes Mike
I was prepared to wager Dawlish Fifty English Pounds -of course I
wouldn't have taken it for myself ; nope I would have donated to the
'Folk Made Deaf By Exposure To Tudor Hughes Trombone Playing ' fund.

Known as THTPDF. *Someone has to stand up for these people.

Quite, but who will stand up for trombonists deafened by adjacent
hard-man Glaswegian drummers. No names, of course, so I'll simply
refer to him as Billy McGee. Lovely bloke but my ears were ringing
for hours afterwards. Plugs next time we have him. More junk for the
gig bag.

Tudor Hughes.

On Jul 31, 2:05*am, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Jul 30, 9:48*pm, wrote:





On Jul 30, 9:21*pm, Mike Tullett wrote:

We speculated a few months ago about the possibilty of a new low
record this summer, given the amount of first year ice. *It now seem a
record is highly unlikely. *This graph shows the rate of melting was
quite a lot slower in early July compared with last year.

*http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaice...17_Figure2.png

The next page outlines the main differences between last summer and
the current one.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/index.html

This points out the circulation over the Artic is less favourable for
ice loss.

Yes Mike
I was prepared to wager Dawlish Fifty English Pounds -of course I
wouldn't have taken it for myself ; nope I would have donated to the
'Folk Made Deaf By Exposure To Tudor Hughes Trombone Playing ' fund.

Known as THTPDF. *Someone has to stand up for these people.

* Quite, but who will stand up for trombonists deafened by adjacent
hard-man Glaswegian drummers. *No names, of course, so I'll simply
refer to him as Billy McGee. *Lovely bloke but my ears were ringing
for hours afterwards. *Plugs next time we have him. *More junk for the
gig bag.

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Remember - Arctic Ice, Tudor. It's a good point Mike's making,
although the reference is now 2 weeks old. The new update, hopefully
during the first week of August will tell us more. My own odds and
thinking (I always think in odds in weather and climate prediction. It
forces me not to be sure. That little "1", in say, 1/9, means that
there is always a chance of the proposal failing, no matter how
certain it may look) are diffent to MIke's.

In this instance, my odds of 4/5 a record show that I feel a new
record is on a knife-edge. It will be close and there is an almost
even chance of it not happening. So much first year ice is now melting
very quickly, across the Arctic, but, as the NSIDC states, it was a
different pattern of melt to mid-July. The melt, up to now, has been
much more intense in the Canadian Arctic; the Beaufort Sea is already
at last year's record low, by the end of July and the NW passage may
open again (the recent detachment of a massive ice-floe from the ice
shelf to the North of Ellesmere Island possibly reflects this
exceptional 2 years of melt in this area). Where it has been slow has
been in the Siberian Arctic, but there is a lot of thin ice now
melting quickly here. Last year, the East Siberian sea ended up ice-
free by mid-August. It will, probably, be just about ice-free by
September, although there is still 0.5m sq km of ice yet to melt: this
is all first-year ice and is thus very vulnerable.

Like I say, it will be very close. If anyone feels that a new record
won't be set, my offer of evens, there will be no record, must look a
good bet!

Paul

On Jul 31, 7:59*am, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 31, 2:05*am, Tudor Hughes wrote:



On Jul 30, 9:48*pm, wrote:

On Jul 30, 9:21*pm, Mike Tullett wrote:

We speculated a few months ago about the possibilty of a new low
record this summer, given the amount of first year ice. *It now seem a
record is highly unlikely. *This graph shows the rate of melting was
quite a lot slower in early July compared with last year.

*http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaice...17_Figure2.png

The next page outlines the main differences between last summer and
the current one.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/index.html

This points out the circulation over the Artic is less favourable for
ice loss.

Yes Mike
I was prepared to wager Dawlish Fifty English Pounds -of course I
wouldn't have taken it for myself ; nope I would have donated to the
'Folk Made Deaf By Exposure To Tudor Hughes Trombone Playing ' fund.

Known as THTPDF. *Someone has to stand up for these people.

* Quite, but who will stand up for trombonists deafened by adjacent
hard-man Glaswegian drummers. *No names, of course, so I'll simply
refer to him as Billy McGee. *Lovely bloke but my ears were ringing
for hours afterwards. *Plugs next time we have him. *More junk for the
gig bag.

Tudor Hughes.- Hide quoted text -

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Remember - Arctic Ice, Tudor. It's a good point Mike's making,
although the reference is now 2 weeks old.


Paul

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I was replying to Lawrence, who had rather whimsically
mentioned my trombone, as he tends to. It's none of your business -
just keep out of it. And don't tell me what to post, Dawly-Pauly. We
don't do that here.

Tudor Hughes

On Jul 31, 2:45*pm, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Jul 31, 7:59*am, Dawlish wrote:





On Jul 31, 2:05*am, Tudor Hughes wrote:

On Jul 30, 9:48*pm, wrote:

On Jul 30, 9:21*pm, Mike Tullett wrote:

We speculated a few months ago about the possibilty of a new low
record this summer, given the amount of first year ice. *It now seem a
record is highly unlikely. *This graph shows the rate of melting was
quite a lot slower in early July compared with last year.

*http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaice...17_Figure2.png

The next page outlines the main differences between last summer and
the current one.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/index.html

This points out the circulation over the Artic is less favourable for
ice loss.

Yes Mike
I was prepared to wager Dawlish Fifty English Pounds -of course I
wouldn't have taken it for myself ; nope I would have donated to the
'Folk Made Deaf By Exposure To Tudor Hughes Trombone Playing ' fund..

Known as THTPDF. *Someone has to stand up for these people.

* Quite, but who will stand up for trombonists deafened by adjacent
hard-man Glaswegian drummers. *No names, of course, so I'll simply
refer to him as Billy McGee. *Lovely bloke but my ears were ringing
for hours afterwards. *Plugs next time we have him. *More junk for the
gig bag.

Tudor Hughes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Remember - Arctic Ice, Tudor. It's a good point Mike's making,
although the reference is now 2 weeks old.

Paul

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* * * * I was replying to Lawrence, who had rather whimsically
mentioned my trombone, as he tends to. *It's none of your business -
just keep out of it. *And don't tell me what to post, Dawly-Pauly. *We
don't do that here.

Tudor Hughes- Hide quoted text -

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Dawly-Pauly! I like that! It's far preferable to being called
a .............( ). None of us ever do that on here, I can assure you:
except you, of course. I wouldn't dream of telling you what to post.
You are quite capable of making that up yourself.

Evens the record stands; 4/5 there is new summer low this year (just
to keep the thread on track) any takers?

Dawly Pauly.

"Mike Tullett" wrote in message
...
We speculated a few months ago about the possibilty of a new low
record this summer, given the amount of first year ice. It now seem a
record is highly unlikely. This graph shows the rate of melting was
quite a lot slower in early July compared with last year.

http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaice...17_Figure2.png

The next page outlines the main differences between last summer and
the current one.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/index.html

This points out the circulation over the Artic is less favourable for
ice loss.


Just seen it - there's a huge difference between now and this time last
year.