Though there seem to be signs from the models of settling down in the
second week and towards mid month, I can't remember a previous
occasion when a disappointing summer continued into the first week of
September - most of the disappointing summers I remember (e.g.
1985-1988, 1992) were followed in southern England by an improvement
to more settled conditions early in September. The only one I can sort-
of think of is 1998, but that year August had been good - for a long
consistently poor mid/late summer period to not improve in early
September has not happened in any previous year that I recall.

Thankfully I'm off on holiday later this week then back mid month
where the GFS models (at the moment) are showing a nice big high!

Nick

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:40:55 -0700, nick150971 wrote:

snip
for a long consistently poor
mid/late summer period to not improve in early September has not
happened in any previous year that I recall.
snip

Nor me, though when Philip Eden mentioned how dull August 1912 was, I
couldn't resist looking up Trevor Harley's site to see what happened
later that year, and...

September: second-coldest of the century
October: wettest of the century; cold too
November: 9 hours [sic] sunshine in Manchester (smog)
December: Wet, particularly in the west

I hope we can do a *bit* better than that this time around!

http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~ta...12_weather.htm

--
Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.

David Buttery wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:40:55 -0700, nick150971 wrote:

snip
for a long consistently poor
mid/late summer period to not improve in early September has not
happened in any previous year that I recall.
snip

Nor me, though when Philip Eden mentioned how dull August 1912 was, I
couldn't resist looking up Trevor Harley's site to see what happened
later that year, and...

September: second-coldest of the century
October: wettest of the century; cold too
November: 9 hours [sic] sunshine in Manchester (smog)
December: Wet, particularly in the west

I hope we can do a *bit* better than that this time around!

http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~ta...12_weather.htm


But in January 1913, the North and Midlands had 18 inches of snow !!! :-))