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.... is proving to be an interesting beast

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/040257.shtml

and there's 'Josephine' following-on and 'Hanna' still to make up her
mind whether she's a sub-tropical cyclone or a full-blown tropical
storm. Times like this the NHC in Miami earn their pay!

Official home page he- http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/index.shtml?

Martin.


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On Sep 4, 9:38 am, "Martin Rowley"
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... is proving to be an interesting beast

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/040257.shtml

and there's 'Josephine' following-on and 'Hanna' still to make up her
mind whether she's a sub-tropical cyclone or a full-blown tropical
storm. Times like this the NHC in Miami earn their pay!

Official home page he-http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/index.shtml?


With a maximum sustained wind speed of 135 mph it was right in the
middle of the Cat 4 definition:

Category Four Hurricane: 114-135 knots; 131-155 mph, or 210-249 km/
hr.
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... is proving to be an interesting beast

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/040257.shtml

and there's 'Josephine' following-on and 'Hanna' still to make up her mind
whether she's a sub-tropical cyclone or a full-blown tropical storm. Times
like this the NHC in Miami earn their pay!

Official home page he- http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/index.shtml?

Martin.


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It seems a shame to have wasted "H" on "Hanna". "Higgins" would have been
much better ;-)
Dave


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Dave Cornwell wrote:

It seems a shame to have wasted "H" on "Hanna". "Higgins" would have been
much better ;-)


And I doubt there's much chance of a Typhoon being named "Tyson" either.

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Martin Rowley wrote:

... is proving to be an interesting beast

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/040257.shtml

and there's 'Josephine' following-on and 'Hanna' still to make up her
mind whether she's a sub-tropical cyclone or a full-blown tropical
storm. Times like this the NHC in Miami earn their pay!


Looks like both Ike and Josephine are having trouble with shear. In both
cases the surface circulations are becoming exposed and Ike's eye is
filling in.

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"Graham P Davis" wrote...

Looks like both Ike and Josephine are having trouble with shear. In
both
cases the surface circulations are becoming exposed and Ike's eye is
filling in.


.... indeed: and the discussion (for Ike anyway) is showing just how
much thought goes into these things; with even more models of various
sorts to play with these days, it must be really mind-blowing trying
to settle on a definitive outcome, even using a broad envelope of
possibilities.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh.../050857.shtml?

Haiti in particular will not want to feel the influence of either Ike
or Josephine.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7599502.stm

[ odd that the BBC hasn't sent its major 'news anchors' to report on
this ..... now, if it was Florida ..... ]

Martin.


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On Sep 5, 10:27*am, "Martin Rowley"
wrote:
"Graham P Davis" wrote...

Looks like both Ike and Josephine are having trouble with shear. In
both
cases the surface circulations are becoming exposed and Ike's eye is
filling in.


... indeed: and the discussion (for Ike anyway) is showing just how
much thought goes into these things; with even more models of various
sorts to play with these days, it must be really mind-blowing trying
to settle on a definitive outcome, even using a broad envelope of
possibilities.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh.../050857.shtml?

Haiti in particular will not want to feel the influence of either Ike
or Josephine.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7599502.stm

[ odd that the BBC hasn't sent its major 'news anchors' to report on
this ..... now, if it was Florida ..... ]


Quite, "...hundreds dead, now ...live from the USA, we have...".

How much is the wind speed related to the damage the precipitation can
do in a hilly country like Haiti?

I notice that Cuba manages to deal with these things as though they
live there. God blessing them?

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Martin Rowley wrote:

"Graham P Davis" wrote...

Looks like both Ike and Josephine are having trouble with shear. In
both
cases the surface circulations are becoming exposed and Ike's eye is
filling in.


... indeed: and the discussion (for Ike anyway) is showing just how
much thought goes into these things; with even more models of various
sorts to play with these days, it must be really mind-blowing trying
to settle on a definitive outcome, even using a broad envelope of
possibilities.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh.../050857.shtml?


Several decades ago, I read that the reason that hurricanes were given
female names was that, like women, they were fascinatingly unpredictable.
Even with all the computing power available to forecasters today, they
still manage to get bewildered by the behaviour of these storms. For
instance, Gustav was not expected to be badly affected by crossing Cuba but
the narrow strip of land it crossed threw a big spanner in the works from
which it never recovered. The eye of the storm persisted but was no longer
over the centre and, for a while, went round in circles.

I've also been watching a tropical depression within the ITCZ for a few
days. It doesn't get much of a mention by NHC except as a tropical wave.
The circulation is sometimes hidden but is visible now at 12N 49W on the
movie sequence at http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-avn.html.


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