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Default Summer: slightly above average temps; wetter,espec in some areas;very dull

Here are the final figures for the summer, from the MetO.

Min temps were higher than max temps in all areas, probably helping to
explain why it felt cooler. Most areas South-West of a line from the
Thames to the Solway Firth had average to slightly below average
temps. Other areas to the NE had a little above average temperatures
for the summer.

Rainfall varied widely; the far NW of Scotland was drier than average.
Most areas were wetter, except for an arc from the Wirral, through the
East Midlands and on through East London to the SE coast where
rainfall was about average. Many areas were significantly wetter than
average.

Sunshine has been the killer, having been below average in all areas
except the far North of Scotland. If you could see the map, of course!

West London had average temps and slightly above average rainfall and
below average sunshine.

Michael Fish apparently said "I've been forecasting for 40 years and
this UK summer was about as average as you can get". Others might
disagree, but so much of what people remember previous summers to be
is often inaccurate. London, this year, with the news constantly
complaining about such an awful summer, would be a case in point and
the lack of sunshine is probably weighing on that judgement. People
are comparing to good, sunny, warm, summers in the past summers,
filtering the average and poorer ones from their memories and also
factoring in news pictures of flooding in other areas, which have
nothing to do with the weather they've actually experienced. Memories
of summers long gone really are a very poor method of judging the
quality of this summer just past.

I feel it's been a little cooler in the daytime and definitely wetter
in the SW and the figures would back that up, but the lack of a warm,
dry and sunny spell has left me feeling disappointed. I've only got 10
summers to base that on though!

The place to have been would have been the far North of Scotland -
closer to the Northern blocking which left most of us at the mercy of
Atlantic depressions for much of the summer!

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/.../seasonal.html

Paul

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Min temps were higher than max temps in all areas
Paul


Er ... Paul, would you care to review this phrase? It doesn't
seem to make sense to me.

Anne


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On Sep 9, 9:06*am, "Anne Burgess"
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Min temps were higher than max temps in all areas
Paul


Er ... Paul, would you care to review this phrase? It doesn't
seem to make sense to me.

Anne


Sorry Anne. Completely nonsensical!

Try reading "min temps were above average, whereas max temps were
below, in most areas!". Oh for an editing button!

Paul

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"Dawlish" wrote in message
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Here are the final figures for the summer, from the MetO.

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Sunshine has been the killer, having been below average in all areas
except the far North of Scotland. If you could see the map, of
course!

I feel it's been a little cooler in the daytime and definitely
wetter
in the SW and the figures would back that up, but the lack of a
warm,
dry and sunny spell has left me feeling disappointed. I've only got
10
summers to base that on though!


Paul


Personally I think that the summer was probably average. The main
problem for me was that the Sunny warm days were invariably
Monday -Friday when most of us were at work. Strangely, the weekends
were all diabolical weatherwise. Maybe thats why we perceived it as a
"bad" summer.
Anybody agree/disagree with this?
(BTW I am near Blackpool, the weather here is a climate of its own.
Can be Sunny in Blackpool and raining in Preston!)

Roy


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"Dawlish" wrote in message
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Michael Fish apparently said "I've been forecasting for 40 years and
this UK summer was about as average as you can get".


I wouldn't dare to argue with Michael Fish; all I can say is that here in
Carmarthenshire, several agricultural shows were cancelled for the first
time in many years; some local farmers haven't had enough days of settled
weather to cut hay, and on my own damp smallholding (which fortunately is
more of a hobby than a livelihood), I haven't a hope of getting my tractor
on the fields to keep the grass down, and haven't been able to for at least
a month. Even the quad bike is leaving ruts in places!

Incidentally, I can't remember having a single day in recent months of
wall-to-wall sunshine. Can anyone who keeps records in this part of Wales
or perhaps in the Southwest of England tell me when they last recorded such
a day?
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.. Maybe thats why we perceived it as a
"bad" summer.
Roy


No perception about it - it WAS a bad summer and still is don't let this lot
tell you otherwise. They'll send you crazy.
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Dave R. [west London]

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Michael Fish apparently said "I've been forecasting for 40 years and
this UK summer was about as average as you can get".


I wouldn't dare to argue with Michael Fish
Hungerdunger


I would - he's lost the plot and not for the first time either!
Whats so amazing about all this is that several millions of people's ideas
of this summer are completely rubbished on the side of some statistical know
alls on uk.sci.weather and that use of the over familiarised word "average".
And the other thing is there's nothing anyone can do about the weather.

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Dave R. [west London]




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