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According to the 0030 forecast on R4, and the Met Office website,
the max at Gravesend yesterday (Monday) was 22.7°C . It was only
16.2°C here, 17 at Gatwick, 18 at Heathrow and 17 at London City Apt.
(by METARs). It was mostly sunny all day here, and presumably at the
other places so Gravesend's figure is difficult to believe,
particularly as the wind was E'ly. It can't just be a website error
because it was repeated by Nick Miller on R4.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

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According to the 0030 forecast on R4, and the Met Office website,
the max at Gravesend yesterday (Monday) was 22.7°C . It was only
16.2°C here, 17 at Gatwick, 18 at Heathrow and 17 at London City Apt.
(by METARs). It was mostly sunny all day here, and presumably at the
other places so Gravesend's figure is difficult to believe,
particularly as the wind was E'ly. It can't just be a website error
because it was repeated by Nick Miller on R4.

Gravesend's maximum was reported in the synops as 22.7°C but the Met Office
UK Latest Observations page
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/observations/ shows no hourly value
higher than 18°C on Monday
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...er_graphs.html .

Colin Youngs
Brussels


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Could it be one of those deliberate "enhancements"? After all, I
doubt that Gravesend has much going for it (what an unfortunate name
in any case) so the locals might want to make the most of what they do
have.

I am reminded of the (perhaps apocryphal) story that at Eastbourne the
sunshine recorder used to be right on the seafront where it could
catch the very earliest and the very last rays of the sun and so
apparently give Eastbourne more sun than neighbouring resorts.

So perhaps Gravesend might have more than one recording station, the
official one and the publicity one.

Jack
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"Jack )" writes:
Could it be one of those deliberate "enhancements"? After all, I
doubt that Gravesend has much going for it (what an unfortunate name
in any case) so the locals might want to make the most of what they do
have.

I am reminded of the (perhaps apocryphal) story that at Eastbourne the
sunshine recorder used to be right on the seafront where it could
catch the very earliest and the very last rays of the sun and so
apparently give Eastbourne more sun than neighbouring resorts.

So perhaps Gravesend might have more than one recording station, the
official one and the publicity one.


But a difference of about 5C seems rather large to be accounted for by
that means. I'm wondering if someone could have written down 17.7 so
badly that it looked like 22.7.
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that man can never learn anything from history."
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Could it be one of those deliberate "enhancements"? After all, I
doubt that Gravesend has much going for it (what an unfortunate name
in any case) so the locals might want to make the most of what they do
have.

I am reminded of the (perhaps apocryphal) story that at Eastbourne the
sunshine recorder used to be right on the seafront where it could
catch the very earliest and the very last rays of the sun and so
apparently give Eastbourne more sun than neighbouring resorts.

So perhaps Gravesend might have more than one recording station, the
official one and the publicity one.

Jack


As someone who grew up in Gravesend (and who never though twice about the
name of the town) I am aware of the good and bad points of the town.
Certainly a wonderfully busy waterfront when the P&O liners used to depart
from Tilbury and the arriving ships took on board the river pilots from
their base in the town. And, when I was young, the flotillas of sailing
barges plying their wares along the coast.

However, the weather station is nowhere near Gravesend - from memory it is
located in Swanscombe Marshes, near where Eurostar trains now enter the
tunnel which takes them under the Thames.

Roger




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Jack ) wrote:
Could it be one of those deliberate "enhancements"? After all, I
doubt that Gravesend has much going for it


Understatement of the year!

Gravesend has absolutey nothing going for it; the best way to see the
place is in your rear-view mirror.

I don't know if it's significant to the aforementioned readings, but the
weather recording station is on a Port of London Authority radio mast at
Broadness , a couple of miles west of Gravesend (probably slightly
nearer Greenhithe, actually).


Derek
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"Derek" wrote in message
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Jack ) wrote:
Could it be one of those deliberate "enhancements"? After all, I
doubt that Gravesend has much going for it


Understatement of the year!

Gravesend has absolutey nothing going for it; the best way to see the
place is in your rear-view mirror.

I don't know if it's significant to the aforementioned readings, but the
weather recording station is on a Port of London Authority radio mast at
Broadness , a couple of miles west of Gravesend (probably slightly nearer
Greenhithe, actually).


Derek

-----------------------------

I am sure Gravesend does have a microclimate. It certainly tends to be a
degree or so warmer than me and I am only 15 miles away on the North side of
the Thames. It is also in the region of the record high temperature. I also
look at the Wunderground weather station at Chalk, Gravesend, and for
example that is currently showing 17.5C against my 16.4C. It also is an area
of low rainfall, like me, with only 29mm so far this month.
Nevertheless 22.4C seems unlikely as I only got 18.7C as max and am only 15
miles away.

Dave, S.Essex




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