Hello

As usual, I'm turning to the font of weather knowledge that is
uk.sci.weather.

Where would I go to find out historic weather data for a specific date
and place, going back about 30 years?

I've been tasked with compiling a weather data chart showing how the
weather has changed on the day of the Great North Run since its
beginning.

By the way, this is for a projec.

Many thanks in advance

Paul

"Osram" wrote in message
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Hello

As usual, I'm turning to the font of weather knowledge that is
uk.sci.weather.

Where would I go to find out historic weather data for a specific date
and place, going back about 30 years?

I've been tasked with compiling a weather data chart showing how the
weather has changed on the day of the Great North Run since its
beginning.

By the way, this is for a projec.

Many thanks in advance

You'll get some information here.

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather.html

Although only back to 1996 for Newcastle.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.

On Oct 5, 9:10*am, Osram wrote:
Hello

As usual, I'm turning to the font of weather knowledge that is
uk.sci.weather.

Where would I go to find out historic weather data for a specific date
and place, going back about 30 years?

I've been tasked with compiling a weather data chart showing how the
weather has changed on the day of the Great North Run since its
beginning.

By the way, this is for a projec.

Many thanks in advance

What you are looking for is a phenomenon called "singularities".
Latency or hysteresis in fluid mechanics but the fluid in meteorology
is not air. Air is a "perfect" fluid. It does not transmit "knock on
effects" never mind hang on to previous behaviour.

When a material the extent of th atmosphere is concerned it is
continually in a state of decay, returning to the most stable
condition available to the smallest parts of it.

Here is something Philip Edn has published if you don't wnat to shell
out serious beer tokens for his book:

Singularities
Does the weather have a memory?

by Philip Eden


There has always been an impression that certain types of weather
recur at certain times of the year.

The idea is irrational and unscientific. But statistical work over the
last century and half has identified some significant tendencies to
unusual weather at particular times of the year. These seasonal
tendencies are called ‘singularities’.

Singularities date back to Alexander Buchan's analysis of Edinburgh
temperatures in 1869 in which he identified times of the year which
were regularly warmer or colder than would be expected from the
smoothed annual curve of mean temperature.

More detailed and extensive work was conducted in Germany, the
Netherlands, Austria and Sweden during the early1900's, and the
subject was taken up in the UK Meteorological Office from the 1930s
onwards.

Rigorous statistical techniques were applied to daily sea-level
pressure patterns over Europe and the north Atlantic over a period of
60 years. The end result was that several key periods were identified
throughout the year when these synoptic patterns deviated markedly
from the normal seasonal progression.

The events certainly did not happen every year, nor were any exact
dates set in stone, but more than 20 singularities which occurred in
more than half the years of the analysis were detected in the British
climate:

Event Avg. Start Avg. End Peak Frequency %
Early-Jan storms 5 Jan 17 Jan 8 Jan
86
Mid-Jan settled 18 Jan 24 Jan 21 Jan
86
Late-Jan storms 24 Jan 1 Feb 31 Jan
84
Early-Feb settled 8 Feb 16 Feb 13 Feb
56
Early-Mar storms 26 Feb 9 Mar 1 Mar
88
Mid-Mar settled 12 Mar 19 Mar 14 Mar
52
Late-Mar storms 24 Mar 31 Mar 28 Mar
67
Mid-Apr storms 10 Apr 15 Apr 14 Apr
71
Late-Apr rains 23 Apr 26 Apr 25 Apr
52
June monsoon 1 Jun 21 Jun 16 Jun
77
July heatwave 10 Jul 24 Jul 16 Jul
80
Late-Aug winds 20 Aug 30 Aug 28 Aug
67
Early-Sep warmth 1 Sep 17 Sep 10 Sep
82
Mid-Sep storms 17 Sep 24 Sep 20 Sep
60
Old Wives’ Summer 24 Sep 4 Oct 29 Sep
64
Early-Oct storms 5 Oct 12 Oct 9 Oct
67
St Luke’s Summer 16 Oct 20 Oct 19 Oct
67
Mid-autumn storms 24 Oct 13 Nov 29 Oct
100
St Martin’s Summer 15 Nov 21 Nov 18 Nov
66
Early-Dec storms 24 Nov 14 Dec 9 Dec
98
Mid-Dec settled 18 Dec 24 Dec 21 Dec
56
Christmas storm 25 Dec 1 Jan 28 Dec
84

After a further sixty years these singularities are still identifiable
on many occasions.

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/repor...gularities.htm

On Oct 6, 10:26*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

Early-Sep warmth 1 Sep 17 Sep
Mid-Sep storms 17 Sep 24 Sep
Old Wives’ Summer 24 Sep 4 Oct
Early-Oct storms 5 Oct 12 Oct
St Luke’s Summer 16 Oct 20 Oct
Mid-autumn storms 24 Oct 13 Nov
St Martin’s Summer 15 Nov 21 Nov
Early-Dec storms 24 Nov 14 Dec
Mid-Dec settled 18 Dec 24 Dec
Christmas storm 25 Dec 1 Jan

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/repor...gularities.htm

Got any dates for these Philip, me old garden?

NE 1?

On Oct 5, 9:10�am, Osram wrote:
Hello

As usual, I'm turning to the font of weather knowledge that is
uk.sci.weather.

Where would I go to find out historic weather data for a specific date
and place, going back about 30 years?

I've been tasked with compiling a weather data chart showing how the
weather has changed on the day of the Great North Run since its
beginning.

By the way, this is for a projec.

Many thanks in advance

Paul

It's certainly my impression that the day of the GNR has usually
enjoyed excellent weather over the years (wasn't there a recent
occasion when there were problems (a fatality?) bought on by the
unusual heat)?
Difficult to pin it down as a particular date or singular period,
as the previous day was shocking for the junior run.
Must be the influence of St.Brendan.
Certainly shows that part of the country in a brilliant light,
both as regards the scenery and the people.

Jim
Castle Douglas

On 6 Oct, 17:54, wrote:
On Oct 5, 9:10 am, Osram wrote:

It's certainly my impression that the day of the GNR has usually
enjoyed excellent weather over the years (wasn't there a recent
occasion when there were problems (a fatality?) bought on by the
unusual heat)?
Difficult to pin it down as a particular date or singular period,
as the previous day was shocking for the junior run.
Must be the influence of St.Brendan.
Certainly shows that part of the country in a brilliant light,
both as regards the scenery and the people.

Hi, Jim,

I've run the last five GNR and on each occasion the weather has been
fine. Yesterday was almost ideal
for running - cool light headwind, cloudless sky and 10C with low
humidity. As you say, 3 years
ago was too hot and, tragically, five died. The date was put back
because of this.
You are quite correct about the scenery and the people - a marvellous
occasion.

Ken
Copley, Teesdale