On Oct 28, 10:08*pm, terry tibbs wrote:
over an hour of heavy snow now.
settling everywhere.

no warnings at all from met office.

None out for snow in the Northern Ireland, West Midlands, Wales today
and then the higher routes in the SW this evening either. But watch it
develop. I did put an update on my site about snow heading SE at
2.00pm yesterday

On 29 Oct, 07:39, Dawlish wrote:

I did put an update on my site about snow heading SE at
2.00pm yesterday

And I'm sure there were multiple red flashing weather warnings out for
Metcheque, WeatherOutlook, Netweather.tv, UKWeatherWorld etc. etc. -
this is my gripe about multiple weather sites all posting their own
warnings, it's just duplication. Regarding the MO, clearly they didn't
feel it warranted a warning and they have access to more data than all
of us put together.

Richard

On Oct 29, 10:22*am, Richard Dixon wrote:
On 29 Oct, 07:39, Dawlish wrote:

I did put an update on my site about snow heading SE at
2.00pm yesterday

And I'm sure there were multiple red flashing weather warnings out for
Metcheque, WeatherOutlook, Netweather.tv, UKWeatherWorld etc. etc. -
this is my gripe about multiple weather sites all posting their own
warnings, it's just duplication. Regarding the MO, clearly they didn't
feel it warranted a warning and they have access to more data than all
of us put together.

Richard

UPDATE 10.43. METO CATCHING UP! WEATHER WARNINGS FOR HEAVY SNOW ISSUED
AT 0831 IN NORTHERN IRELAND AND AT 1014 FOR SNOW OVER MUCH OF WALES.
http://totallyweatherandclimate.co.uk/

They are playing catch-up today Richard........with all that
technology too. *)) I think the MetO are the best in the world, but
that warnings site is a complete dog's breakfast. NO snow warnings in
England yesterday and the most unusual October snow north of London,
for a long, long time. I know the re-look is under way. I know that
what was said in the Pitt review willl be employed in the re-
structuring, but that MetO warnings site is exactly what I've said it
is, to most people - a complete dog's breakfast. It's not trusted
anything like as well as it should be and events such as yesterday,
added to the myriad warnings of heavy rain that produced very few
severe weather events this summer, only reduce that trust in the
system. Use the many other sites in conjunction with the MetO and make
your own mind up would be my advice. We can...............but how does
an elderly person, or a poorly educated person manage to do that?

I feel you are defending the indefensible - and the site will almost
certainly change over the next 12 months. If it doesn't; it runs the
risk of becoming irrelevant.

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:09:57 -0700 (PDT), Dawlish
wrote:

....but how does
an elderly person, or a poorly educated person manage to do that?

I'm seventy-one. I have no difficulty.

Please define elderly.

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On 29 Oct, 11:09, Dawlish wrote:

UPDATE 10.43. METO CATCHING UP! WEATHER WARNINGS FOR HEAVY SNOW ISSUED
AT 0831 IN NORTHERN IRELAND AND AT 1014 FOR SNOW OVER MUCH OF WALES.http://totallyweatherandclimate.co.uk/

Yes thanks for advertising one of the plethora of duplicative weather
websites around.

They are playing catch-up today Richard........with all that
technology too. *))

Enough people seem to have gripes about the MO wherever possible, it
seems to be a common trait of the weather enthusiast. Are you the new
Jon Witty?

NO snow warnings in
England yesterday and the most unusual October snow north of London,
for a long, long time.

I'd assumed they would have done which yes does surprise me but it's
not as if they don't have all the information at their fingertips.
Maybe Steve Willington (sp.?!) can come on here and say why no
warnings were issued. The TAFs yesterday certainly warned of moderate
snowfall so it's as if they weren't caught unawares by snowfall.

MetO warnings site is exactly what I've said it
is, to most people - a complete dog's breakfast.

I log on to www.metoffice.com and if there's a weather warning out,
it's at the top banner. I can quickly see if my area is going to be
affected if there's a colour in my region. I wouldn't call it a dog's
breakfast.

It's not trusted
anything like as well as it should be

Says who? Is there a survey on this or just your opinion?

I feel you are defending the indefensible - and the site will almost
certainly change over the next 12 months.

I'm not defending the indefensible, I'm merely saying that there are
people with brains in the Met Office who are actually aware of what
was happening. You give the impression that only a passing thought
goes into this.

it runs the risk of becoming irrelevant

And everyone starts using the other weather websites? I rather doubt
it. IMHO my main criticism of the Met Office is a centralisation of
everything - I could imagine that having regional weather offices
might improve the "on-the-spot" nature of weather warnings.

Richard

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On Oct 29, 11:09*am, Dawlish wrote:
On Oct 29, 10:22*am, Richard Dixon wrote:

On 29 Oct, 07:39, Dawlish wrote:

I did put an update on my site about snow heading SE at
2.00pm yesterday

And I'm sure there were multiple red flashing weather warnings out for
Metcheque, WeatherOutlook, Netweather.tv, UKWeatherWorld etc. etc. -
this is my gripe about multiple weather sites all posting their own
warnings, it's just duplication. Regarding the MO, clearly they didn't
feel it warranted a warning and they have access to more data than all
of us put together.

Richard

UPDATE 10.43. METO CATCHING UP! WEATHER WARNINGS FOR HEAVY SNOW ISSUED
AT 0831 IN NORTHERN IRELAND AND AT 1014 FOR SNOW OVER MUCH OF WALES.http://totallyweatherandclimate.co.uk/

They are playing catch-up today Richard........with all that
technology too. *)) *I think the MetO are the best in the world, but
that warnings site is a complete dog's breakfast. NO snow warnings in
England yesterday and the most unusual October snow north of London,
for a long, long time. I know the re-look is under way. I know that
what was said in the Pitt review willl be employed in the re-
structuring, but that MetO warnings site is exactly what I've said it
is, to most people - a complete dog's breakfast. It's not trusted
anything like as well as it should be and events such as yesterday,
added to the myriad warnings of heavy rain that produced very few
severe weather events this summer, only reduce that trust in the
system. Use the many other sites in conjunction with the MetO and make
your own mind up would be my advice. We can...............but how does
an elderly person, or a poorly educated person manage to do that?

I feel you are defending the indefensible - and the site will almost
certainly change over the next 12 months. If it doesn't; it runs the
risk of becoming irrelevant.

I can't see much wrong with the site. One can criticise it at
times for warnings that are a bit over the top or, as on this
occasion, that are not there at all though as far as I know the recent
snow caused no disruption over southern England and was thought not to
warrant a warning. It has been said many times on this group,
rightly, that over-use of warnings will lead to a reduction in the
impact of warnings as a whole.
As to the site's style and useability I'd say anyone who can use
the web can use that site satisfactorily and get information from it
even if that information is sometimes less than perfect. But that's
weather forecasting for you.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

On Oct 29, 4:02*pm, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Oct 29, 11:09*am, Dawlish wrote:



On Oct 29, 10:22*am, Richard Dixon wrote:

On 29 Oct, 07:39, Dawlish wrote:

I did put an update on my site about snow heading SE at
2.00pm yesterday

And I'm sure there were multiple red flashing weather warnings out for
Metcheque, WeatherOutlook, Netweather.tv, UKWeatherWorld etc. etc. -
this is my gripe about multiple weather sites all posting their own
warnings, it's just duplication. Regarding the MO, clearly they didn't
feel it warranted a warning and they have access to more data than all
of us put together.

Richard

UPDATE 10.43. METO CATCHING UP! WEATHER WARNINGS FOR HEAVY SNOW ISSUED
AT 0831 IN NORTHERN IRELAND AND AT 1014 FOR SNOW OVER MUCH OF WALES.http://totallyweatherandclimate.co.uk/

They are playing catch-up today Richard........with all that
technology too. *)) *I think the MetO are the best in the world, but
that warnings site is a complete dog's breakfast. NO snow warnings in
England yesterday and the most unusual October snow north of London,
for a long, long time. I know the re-look is under way. I know that
what was said in the Pitt review willl be employed in the re-
structuring, but that MetO warnings site is exactly what I've said it
is, to most people - a complete dog's breakfast. It's not trusted
anything like as well as it should be and events such as yesterday,
added to the myriad warnings of heavy rain that produced very few
severe weather events this summer, only reduce that trust in the
system. Use the many other sites in conjunction with the MetO and make
your own mind up would be my advice. We can...............but how does
an elderly person, or a poorly educated person manage to do that?

I feel you are defending the indefensible - and the site will almost
certainly change over the next 12 months. If it doesn't; it runs the
risk of becoming irrelevant.

* * * I can't see much wrong with the site. *One can criticise it at
times for warnings that are a bit over the top or, as on this
occasion, that are not there at all though as far as I know the recent
snow caused no disruption over southern England and was thought not to
warrant a warning.

And it wasn't heavy or long lasting.

It went from drizzle to sleet with a bit of snow in between. Mind me,
that is hardly Bracknell. Not that we sheep are that hardy this far
oop nurth.

What kind of kittens doss in Bracknell these days? Is it about time
someone invaded us? We are getting soft.