On 23 Dec, 11:52, "Dave Cornwell"
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"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message

... Well the 00Z ECMF chart was promising in the longer term for the cold
weather fans but the above is the real McCoy (who was he?). Just a shame
it's always ten days away but at least there is some scope for a slight
downgrade ;-) but presumably an ensemble outlier, but such fun *

Dave

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Doh! Dunno how I managed to get three "buts" in one sentence. Perhaps 3
buts= a no chance!
Dave



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ECMWF
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/ecmpanel1.html

GFS
http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/avnpanel1.html

They seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet now and it's looking
grreeeaaaaattttt :-)

As Will would say "Come on"

**Wait for the humbugs**

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net

They seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet now and it's looking
grreeeaaaaattttt :-)

As Will would say "Come on"

**Wait for the humbugs**

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
You better be careful Keith, you know you will only upset Dave R
You won't be on his xmas card list
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Graham

On 23 Dec, 12:09, "Keith (Southend)G"
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On 23 Dec, 11:52, "Dave Cornwell"



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"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message

... Well the 00Z ECMF chart was promising in the longer term for the cold
weather fans but the above is the real McCoy (who was he?). Just a shame
it's always ten days away but at least there is some scope for a slight
downgrade ;-) but presumably an ensemble outlier, but such fun *

Dave

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Doh! Dunno how I managed to get three "buts" in one sentence. Perhaps 3
buts= a no chance!
Dave

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ECMWFhttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/ecmpanel1.html

GFShttp://www.wzkarten.de/pics/avnpanel1.html

They seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet now and it's looking
grreeeaaaaattttt :-)

As Will would say "Come on"

**Wait for the humbugs**

Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net

That trough extending SW from the Barents Sea towards UK over New Year
is scarily like the initiation of the 1962/63 cold spell.

JPG

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On 23 Dec, 12:09, "Keith (Southend)G"
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On 23 Dec, 11:52, "Dave Cornwell"



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... Well the 00Z ECMF chart was
promising in the longer term for the cold
weather fans but the above is the real McCoy (who was he?). Just a
shame
it's always ten days away but at least there is some scope for a
slight
downgrade ;-) but presumably an ensemble outlier, but such fun

Dave

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Doh! Dunno how I managed to get three "buts" in one sentence. Perhaps 3
buts= a no chance!
Dave

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ECMWFhttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/ecmpanel1.html

GFShttp://www.wzkarten.de/pics/avnpanel1.html

They seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet now and it's looking
grreeeaaaaattttt :-)

As Will would say "Come on"

**Wait for the humbugs**

Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net

That trough extending SW from the Barents Sea towards UK over New Year
is scarily like the initiation of the 1962/63 cold spell.

JPG
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Quite a few people have been making comparisons of this evolution with
1962-3, rightfully I guess from a future synoptic point of view. No doubt if
it were to remarkably come about they might claim great forecasting skills.
I've been on here long enough to know that a few have said this about
previous scenarios in previous years though, so I am wary.
Dave

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:52:46 -0000, Dave Cornwell wrote:

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On 23 Dec, 12:09, "Keith (Southend)G"
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On 23 Dec, 11:52, "Dave Cornwell"



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"Dave Cornwell" wrote in
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... Well the 00Z ECMF chart was
promising in the longer term for the cold
weather fans but the above is the real McCoy (who was he?). Just a
shame
it's always ten days away but at least there is some scope for a
slight
downgrade ;-) but presumably an ensemble outlier, but such fun

Dave

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Doh! Dunno how I managed to get three "buts" in one sentence. Perhaps 3
buts= a no chance!
Dave

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ECMWFhttp://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/ecmpanel1.html

GFShttp://www.wzkarten.de/pics/avnpanel1.html

They seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet now and it's looking
grreeeaaaaattttt :-)

As Will would say "Come on"

**Wait for the humbugs**

Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net

That trough extending SW from the Barents Sea towards UK over New Year
is scarily like the initiation of the 1962/63 cold spell.

JPG
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Quite a few people have been making comparisons of this evolution with
1962-3, rightfully I guess from a future synoptic point of view. No doubt if
it were to remarkably come about they might claim great forecasting skills.
I've been on here long enough to know that a few have said this about
previous scenarios in previous years though, so I am wary.
Dave

I would add that from July this year onwards months have either been at or
below the 1971-2000 average which is a marked shift in pattern from recent
years' experience. A cold January would continue this trend.


Alan Gardiner
Chiswell Green, St Albans
101m ASL
23/12/2008 15:01:14

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On 23 Dec, 12:09, "Keith (Southend)G"
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On 23 Dec, 11:52, "Dave Cornwell"



Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net

That trough extending SW from the Barents Sea towards UK over New Year
is scarily like the initiation of the 1962/63 cold spell.

JPG

The current situation has some similarities with Christmas 1954; high
pressure just to the south and overcast skies. After Christmas , the High
migrated towards Scandinavia, the wind turned easterly and temperatures fell
very slowly over several days. Skies continued cloudy and, as I remember, we
started getting snowgrains on New Years Day. Eventually, the highest
pressure transferred to Greenland and there was a 'northerly' spell in the
second week of January. There were heavy snowfalls, parts of Scotland were
cut off and 'Operation Snowdrop' was launched to drop supplies by
helicopter. There were more severe spells in February.

Peter Clarke
Ewell, Epsom

Keith (Southend)G wrote:
On 23 Dec, 11:52, "Dave Cornwell"
wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message

... Well the 00Z ECMF chart was promising in the longer term for the cold
weather fans but the above is the real McCoy (who was he?). Just a shame
it's always ten days away but at least there is some scope for a slight
downgrade ;-) but presumably an ensemble outlier, but such fun
Dave
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Doh! Dunno how I managed to get three "buts" in one sentence. Perhaps 3
buts= a no chance!
Dave



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ECMWF
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/ecmpanel1.html

GFS
http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/avnpanel1.html

They seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet now and it's looking
grreeeaaaaattttt :-)

As Will would say "Come on"

**Wait for the humbugs**

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net

GFS consistent on 12z run

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Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net