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The Daily Mail claims that Farnborough's -11C the other night is the lowest
temp recorded there in January since 1926.

I am sure 1987 and 1963 will have seen lower temps. Especially 1987, I
remember lower temps than that being forcast, but I am too young to
remember it well.


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I don't know about Farnborough's stats, but here in Wokingham we had -15.3C
on the 14th January 1982. I feel sure that there were much lower values
around in the south that night, -20 rings a bell, perhaps at Benson?

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"Brian Wakem" wrote in message
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The Daily Mail claims that Farnborough's -11C the other night is the

lowest
temp recorded there in January since 1926.

I am sure 1987 and 1963 will have seen lower temps. Especially 1987, I
remember lower temps than that being forcast, but I am too young to
remember it well.


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Brian Wakem



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Bernard Burton wrote:
The Daily Mail claims that Farnborough's -11C the other night is the

lowest
temp recorded there in January since 1926.

I am sure 1987 and 1963 will have seen lower temps. Especially 1987, I
remember lower temps than that being forcast, but I am too young to
remember it well.


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Brian Wakem

I don't know about Farnborough's stats, but here in Wokingham we had -15.3C
on the 14th January 1982. I feel sure that there were much lower values
around in the south that night, -20 rings a bell, perhaps at Benson?

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Wokingham, Berkshire, UK.

Satellite images at:
www.woksat.info/wwp.html

"Brian Wakem" wrote in message
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The Wallingford metsite (about 2-3km SW of Benson) recorded -21.0C on
14th Jan 1982. That is the lowest recorded here since records began in 1962.

BTW the same site recorded a minimum of -9.5C on 7th Jan which is the
lowest recorded during this 'Big Freeze'.

We still have remnants of the dusting of snow that fell on Monday on
some surfaces.
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"Brian Wakem" wrote :

The Daily Mail claims that Farnborough's -11C the other night is the
lowest
temp recorded there in January since 1926.

I am sure 1987 and 1963 will have seen lower temps. Especially 1987, I
remember lower temps than that being forcast, but I am too young to
remember it well.

I don't have figures for South Farnborough between 1994 and 2000, but
the only January during that period which may have run it close was
early-Jan 1997 (when other sites in the district reached -10°C, and -15°C
was passed locally in the Midlands). Otherwise, yes, it was 1987
with -13.3°C. It had also been lower in February 1991. However, the
station appears to have a break in its record in the early and mid 1980s.

To answer Martin's question in another thread, Hurn's min in Jan 1987
was -10.7°C.

Philip


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"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message
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To answer Martin's question in another thread, Hurn's min in Jan
1987
was -10.7°C.



.... thanks Philip.

Martin.


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"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message
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I don't have figures for South Farnborough between 1994 and 2000,
but
the only January during that period which may have run it close was
early-Jan 1997 (when other sites in the district reached -10°C,
and -15°C
was passed locally in the Midlands).


.... I'm not sure how reliable / accurate this site is ...

http://www.tutiempo.net/en/Climate/F...1997/37680.htm

but the value for the minimum (?06Z SYNOP) is -9.2°C; if it *is* the
SYNOP value, then the temperature could have fallen a little further
before 09Z. These data are from 03768, the SAWS replacement for 03766
(South Farnborough).

Martin.




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On 8 Jan, 11:41, "Martin Rowley"
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"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message

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I don't have figures for South Farnborough between 1994 and 2000,
but
the only January during that period which may have run it close was
early-Jan 1997 (when other sites in the district reached -10°C,
and -15°C
was passed locally in the Midlands).


... I'm not sure how reliable / accurate this site is ...

http://www.tutiempo.net/en/Climate/F...1997/37680.htm

but the value for the minimum (?06Z SYNOP) is -9.2°C; if it *is* the
SYNOP value, then the temperature could have fallen a little further
before 09Z. These data are from 03768, the SAWS replacement for 03766
(South Farnborough).

Martin.

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Lat: 50.82N * Long: 01.88W
NGR: SU 082 023


Come along chaps. You don't really expect the Mail to let mere facts
get in the way of a good headline, do you? It's never worried it in
the past, after all.

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Bernard Burton wrote:
I don't know about Farnborough's stats, but here in Wokingham we had -15.3C
on the 14th January 1982. I feel sure that there were much lower values
around in the south that night, -20 rings a bell, perhaps at Benson?



Arborfield -18.5
Bedford -15.9
Benson -18.7
Bracknell Bullbrook -15.6
Bracknell -16.1
Brize Norton -20.7
Cheltenham -20.1
Corsham -16.7
Hurley -14.9
Lyneham -16.0
Marlborough -16.6
Merrist Wood -16.2
Oxford -16.6
Reading -14.5
Sandhurst -15.0
Trowbridge -17.8
Vernham Dean -16.7
Wallingford -21.0
Wokingham -15.3

and colder further north, of course.

Ahh, this brings back memories...

Roger
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"Brian Wakem" wrote in message
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The Daily Mail claims that Farnborough's -11C the other night is the

lowest
temp recorded there in January since 1926.

I am sure 1987 and 1963 will have seen lower temps. Especially 1987, I
remember lower temps than that being forcast, but I am too young to
remember it well.


--
Brian Wakem



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Between 1988 and 1996 the Tutiempo site has data for two Farnborough
stations - Farnborough and "Farnborough Military" (but the latter only
Mon to Fri it seems!). Comparing the two there seem to be some
surprising discrepancies so not sure how reliable the data is.

Farnborough Military recorded a minimum of -12C on Jan 3 1979:
http://www.tutiempo.net/en/Climate/F...1979/37660.htm
(data only given to whole degrees)

And -12.1C on Jan 12 1987: http://www.tutiempo.net/en/Climate/F...1987/37660.htm

The data don't go back to 1963 unfortunately.

Still this area had an impressive run of cold nights recently
considering we never really got a proper easterly blast: two
consecutive nights below -8C at Farnborough last week and the -10.8C
this week. The Basingstoke Canal was frozen right across to a
thickness of 4 to 5 inches on Sunday afternoon (Jan 4th) and that was
before the *really* cold night! Photo taken by Eelmoor Bridge just
south of Farnborough airfield after I finally managed to smash a piece
of it out: http://i41.tinypic.com/ycttw.jpg

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