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These maps are always appear to be filled in by inspired guesswork as
much as actual figures, but www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/anomacts/#
shows less ground frosts across Dartmoor (1-5) than there were in
Penzance (there were 5 or 6 here) The anomaly map also shows a large
negative anomaly

Perhaps a certain Hay Tor resident would like to comment? If it's
true, it's certainly odd.

Graham
Penzance

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Graham Easterling wrote:
These maps are always appear to be filled in by inspired guesswork as
much as actual figures, but www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/anomacts/#
shows less ground frosts across Dartmoor (1-5) than there were in
Penzance (there were 5 or 6 here) The anomaly map also shows a large
negative anomaly

Perhaps a certain Hay Tor resident would like to comment? If it's
true, it's certainly odd.

Graham
Penzance


There were 4 air frosts and 8 days where air min. was between 0 and 2C (one
at +0.1C). Two days with snow lying at full cover at Haytor (7cm and 4cm).
So 40% of days in month had an air min. below 2C.

Will
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On 7 Apr, 20:26, "Will Hand" wrote:
Graham Easterling wrote:
These maps are always appear to be filled in by inspired guesswork as
much as actual figures, butwww.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/anomacts/#
shows less ground frosts across Dartmoor (1-5) than there were in
Penzance (there were 5 or 6 here) The anomaly map also shows a large
negative anomaly


Perhaps a certain Hay Tor resident would like to comment? If it's
true, it's certainly odd.


Graham
Penzance


There were 4 air frosts and 8 days where air min. was between 0 and 2C (one
at +0.1C). Two days with snow lying at full cover at Haytor (7cm and 4cm).
So 40% of days in month had an air min. below 2C.

Will
--


Yes, but the map is for ground frosts, surely you had 5 ground
frosts? Especially as you had 12 nights 2C. I recorded just 5 nights
below 2C and there were 5 ground frosts that I noticed (and almost
certainly 1 that I missed!)


Graham
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Graham Easterling wrote:
On 7 Apr, 20:26, "Will Hand" wrote:
Graham Easterling wrote:
These maps are always appear to be filled in by inspired guesswork
as much as actual figures,
butwww.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/anomacts/# shows less ground
frosts across Dartmoor (1-5) than there were in Penzance (there
were 5 or 6 here) The anomaly map also shows a large negative
anomaly


Perhaps a certain Hay Tor resident would like to comment? If it's
true, it's certainly odd.


Graham
Penzance


There were 4 air frosts and 8 days where air min. was between 0 and
2C (one at +0.1C). Two days with snow lying at full cover at Haytor
(7cm and 4cm). So 40% of days in month had an air min. below 2C.

Will
--


Yes, but the map is for ground frosts, surely you had 5 ground
frosts? Especially as you had 12 nights 2C. I recorded just 5 nights
below 2C and there were 5 ground frosts that I noticed (and almost
certainly 1 that I missed!)


I don't record ground frosts Graham. We get loads anyway right into June, so
yes almost certainly!

Will
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On 7 Apr, 20:58, Graham Easterling wrote:
On 7 Apr, 20:26, "Will Hand" wrote:





Graham Easterling wrote:
These maps are always appear to be filled in by inspired guesswork as
much as actual figures, butwww.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/anomacts/#
shows less ground frosts across Dartmoor (1-5) than there were in
Penzance (there were 5 or 6 here) The anomaly map also shows a large
negative anomaly


Perhaps a certain Hay Tor resident would like to comment? If it's
true, it's certainly odd.


Graham
Penzance


There were 4 air frosts and 8 days where air min. was between 0 and 2C (one
at +0.1C). Two days with snow lying at full cover at Haytor (7cm and 4cm).
So 40% of days in month had an air min. below 2C.


Will
--


Yes, but the map is for ground frosts, surely you had 5 ground
frosts? Especially as you had 12 nights 2C. I recorded just 5 nights
below 2C and there were 5 ground frosts that I noticed (and almost
certainly 1 that I missed!)

Graham- Hide quoted text -

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Looks to me like one of the relatively small number of synop-reporting
sites used to prepare these analyses, almost certainly an AWS, has a
dodgy sensor for some or all of the month, which has thrown the
figures for the area which it represents. I don't know the current
network of AWSs in the area but I'll bet the site is very cloe to the
centre of that anomaly. It's certainly wrong, of course.

--
Stephen Burt
Stratfield Mortimer, Berkshire


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On 7 Apr, 22:17, wrote:
On 7 Apr, 20:58, Graham Easterling wrote:





On 7 Apr, 20:26, "Will Hand" wrote:


Graham Easterling wrote:
These maps are always appear to be filled in by inspired guesswork as
much as actual figures, butwww.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/anomacts/#
shows less ground frosts across Dartmoor (1-5) than there were in
Penzance (there were 5 or 6 here) The anomaly map also shows a large
negative anomaly


Perhaps a certain Hay Tor resident would like to comment? If it's
true, it's certainly odd.


Graham
Penzance


There were 4 air frosts and 8 days where air min. was between 0 and 2C (one
at +0.1C). Two days with snow lying at full cover at Haytor (7cm and 4cm).
So 40% of days in month had an air min. below 2C.


Will
--


Yes, but the map is for ground frosts, surely you had 5 ground
frosts? Especially as you had 12 nights 2C. I recorded just 5 nights
below 2C and there were 5 ground frosts that I noticed (and almost
certainly 1 that I missed!)


Graham- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Looks to me like one of the relatively small number of synop-reporting
sites used to prepare these analyses, almost certainly an AWS, has a
dodgy sensor for some or all of the month, which has thrown the
figures for the area which it represents. I don't know the current
network of AWSs in the area but I'll bet the site is very cloe to the
centre of that anomaly. It's certainly wrong, of course.

--
Stephen Burt
Stratfield Mortimer, Berkshire- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I always find it disappointing that these obvious errors aren't
spotted & removed prior to publication.

Graham
Penzance
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I get at least one ground frost every month in my bedroom despite the high
air temperature

RonB
"Graham Easterling" wrote in message
...
On 7 Apr, 22:17, wrote:
On 7 Apr, 20:58, Graham Easterling wrote:





On 7 Apr, 20:26, "Will Hand" wrote:


Graham Easterling wrote:
These maps are always appear to be filled in by inspired guesswork
as
much as actual figures,
butwww.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/anomacts/#
shows less ground frosts across Dartmoor (1-5) than there were in
Penzance (there were 5 or 6 here) The anomaly map also shows a
large
negative anomaly


Perhaps a certain Hay Tor resident would like to comment? If it's
true, it's certainly odd.


Graham
Penzance


There were 4 air frosts and 8 days where air min. was between 0 and
2C (one
at +0.1C). Two days with snow lying at full cover at Haytor (7cm and
4cm).
So 40% of days in month had an air min. below 2C.


Will
--


Yes, but the map is for ground frosts, surely you had 5 ground
frosts? Especially as you had 12 nights 2C. I recorded just 5 nights
below 2C and there were 5 ground frosts that I noticed (and almost
certainly 1 that I missed!)


Graham- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Looks to me like one of the relatively small number of synop-reporting
sites used to prepare these analyses, almost certainly an AWS, has a
dodgy sensor for some or all of the month, which has thrown the
figures for the area which it represents. I don't know the current
network of AWSs in the area but I'll bet the site is very cloe to the
centre of that anomaly. It's certainly wrong, of course.

--
Stephen Burt
Stratfield Mortimer, Berkshire- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I always find it disappointing that these obvious errors aren't
spotted & removed prior to publication.

Graham
Penzance



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LOL

Will
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ronaldbutton wrote:
I get at least one ground frost every month in my bedroom despite the
high air temperature

RonB
"Graham Easterling" wrote in message
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On 7 Apr, 22:17, wrote:
On 7 Apr, 20:58, Graham Easterling
wrote:
On 7 Apr, 20:26, "Will Hand" wrote:

Graham Easterling wrote:
These maps are always appear to be filled in by inspired
guesswork as
much as actual figures,
butwww.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/anomacts/#
shows less ground frosts across Dartmoor (1-5) than there were in
Penzance (there were 5 or 6 here) The anomaly map also shows a
large
negative anomaly

Perhaps a certain Hay Tor resident would like to comment? If it's
true, it's certainly odd.

Graham
Penzance

There were 4 air frosts and 8 days where air min. was between 0
and 2C (one
at +0.1C). Two days with snow lying at full cover at Haytor (7cm
and 4cm).
So 40% of days in month had an air min. below 2C.

Will
--

Yes, but the map is for ground frosts, surely you had 5 ground
frosts? Especially as you had 12 nights 2C. I recorded just 5
nights below 2C and there were 5 ground frosts that I noticed (and
almost certainly 1 that I missed!)

Graham- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Looks to me like one of the relatively small number of
synop-reporting sites used to prepare these analyses, almost
certainly an AWS, has a dodgy sensor for some or all of the month,
which has thrown the figures for the area which it represents. I
don't know the current network of AWSs in the area but I'll bet the
site is very cloe to the centre of that anomaly. It's certainly
wrong, of course. --
Stephen Burt
Stratfield Mortimer, Berkshire- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I always find it disappointing that these obvious errors aren't
spotted & removed prior to publication.

Graham
Penzance





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