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I am preparing a series of lessons on the supposed increase in flood
frequency and intensity in the UK as a result of climate change. Trendy geography this, even if I am unconvinced about its efficacy. Does any one amongst the iluuminaries of the esteemed members of this newsgroup have any links to articles and papers that may help me stimulate and educate the eager students at Bablake please? Steve J |
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"Steve J" wrote in message
... I am preparing a series of lessons on the supposed increase in flood frequency and intensity in the UK as a result of climate change. Trendy geography this, even if I am unconvinced about its efficacy. Does any one amongst the iluuminaries of the esteemed members of this newsgroup have any links to articles and papers that may help me stimulate and educate the eager students at Bablake please? Steve J .... a couple for starters:- http://www.tyndall.ac.uk/events/past...ng_seminar.pdf http://nora.nerc.ac.uk/2976/ Martin. -- Martin Rowley West Moors, East Dorset (UK): 17m (56ft) amsl Lat: 50.82N Long: 01.88W NGR: SU 082 023 |
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On 16 May, 16:36, "Martin Rowley"
wrote: ... a couple for starters:- http://www.tyndall.ac.uk/events/past..._flooding_semi... http://nora.nerc.ac.uk/2976/ Excellent thanks mate Steve J |
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On May 16, 3:01*pm, Steve J wrote:
I am preparing a series of lessons on the supposed increase in flood frequency and intensity in the UK as a result of climate change. Trendy geography this, even if I am unconvinced about its efficacy. Does any one amongst the iluuminaries of the esteemed members of this newsgroup have any links to articles and papers that may help me stimulate and educate the *eager students at Bablake please? Steve J I am not sure if using Google makes me an luminary or esteemed but if you go to: http://www.google.co.uk/ Click on "Pages from the UK" then enter uk climate change flooding you will get quite a few interesting pages including at least one mentioned by Martin. But I suspect your students would have told you that anyway :-) If you repeat that procedure at http://uk.altavista.com/ you will get some more including this one from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/climate/impact/flooding.shtml which is possibly is at a level most suitable for your pupils. http://uk.search.yahoo.com/ also produces similar results including this one: It's too late. Climate change floods are inevitable - no matter what we do Cost of erosion, rising rivers and polluted drains could hit £20bn http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/ap...ce.environment which is over five years old! Perhaps I am teaching my granny to suck eggs because I thought all teachers were now aware that their pupils go to Wikipedia and use that text in their assignments. If you add wikipedia to the search string you get this web page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood which has a link to ^ Cabinet Office, UK. "Pitt Review: Lessons learned from the 2007 floods." June 2008. at: http://archive.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/...ittreview.html which may be more like what you are looking for. Anyway, I dislike students posting questions on newsgroups in order to get the answer to their homework. So promise not to use any of this in your lessons :-) Cheers, Alastair. for their assi |
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On 16 May, 17:38, Alastair wrote:
Perhaps I am teaching my granny to suck eggs because I thought all teachers were now aware that their pupils go to Wikipedia and use that text in their assignments. Anyway, I dislike students posting questions on newsgroups in order to get the answer to their homework. *So promise not to use any of this in your lessons :-) Thank you for your contributions gentlemen, especially Alistair who seems to think me incapable of searcing wiki and the havens of the average student who like to copy and paste their essays into a word documanet:-) I asked here in the hope of any knowledge of academic research that may be factual rather than pure fantasy - all the usual easily accessible links have been well covered, thanks. Thanks Martin too - you never let anyone down on this ng:-) Steve J |
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On May 16, 5:39*pm, Steve J wrote:
On 16 May, 17:38, Alastair wrote: Thank you for your contributions gentlemen, especially Alistair who seems to think me incapable of searcing wiki and the havens of the average student who like to copy and paste their essays into a word documanet:-) I didn't realise that you wanted scientific papers disproving "the supposed increase in flood frequency and intensity in the UK as a result of climate change." That is more difficult since the general consensus is that climate change will lead to an increase, but I think I can comply :-) But first let me defend Wikipedia. As I have already reported, at the last RMetSoc meeting two FRSes used diagrams from Wikipedia in their presentations. Of course you should not trust it blindly, but it is a good starting point. In fact the link from it I gave you is the latest official thinking on flooding in the UK - The Pitt Review http://archive.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/...ittreview.html . Hopefully this post will be read by more than just yourself Steve. So the following is aimed at all readers of this post not just you. If you have not already done so it is well worth joining the Royal Meteorological Society. When you do so you get their magazine "Weather" for free. The subscription to the society can be deducted from you income tax since it is a professional association. Alternatively, you can do as I did, and join at the student rate if you enroll on the Open University first level Weather course. The magazine has a mix of light to serious articles on weather, though not full blown scientific papers which I assume would be well beyond 14 year old pupils. The reason I mention that, is in last January's (2009) there was an article which fits your specification. It is a rebuttal of the Pitt Review. It argues that although the rainfall events in the summer of 2007 were the heaviest ever recorded in a three month period they should not be described as 'unprecedented'! The full citation is Eden, Philip. (2009) "The Government's response to the summer floods of 2007", Weather, Royal Meteorological Society, vol. 64 p18-22 DOI: 10.1002/wea.358 HTH, Cheers, Alastair. |
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On May 16, 4:01*pm, Steve J wrote:
I am preparing a series of lessons on the supposed increase in flood frequency and intensity in the UK as a result of climate change. Trendy geography this, even if I am unconvinced about its efficacy. Does any one amongst the iluuminaries of the esteemed members of this newsgroup have any links to articles and papers that may help me stimulate and educate the *eager students at Bablake please? Steve J Try Philip Eden's book "Great British Weather Disasters". Better to present your students with something written by a climatologist, instead of someone on Wiki. The way Phil dissects the "unprecedented" weather of many recent weather events, including floods, with a barrage of actual evidence is quite superb and will make your students think twice before accepting some of the wilder claims and hand-washing when an agency makes a complet ******** of disaster planning. |
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, Steve J writes: I am preparing a series of lessons on the supposed increase in flood frequency and intensity in the UK as a result of climate change. Trendy geography this, even if I am unconvinced about its efficacy. Does any one amongst the iluuminaries of the esteemed members of this newsgroup have any links to articles and papers that may help me stimulate and educate the eager students at Bablake please? There's much of interest in Philip Eden's most recent book, "Great British Weather Disasters ". -- John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now." Anon |
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John Hall wrote:
There's much of interest in Philip Eden's most recent book, "Great British Weather Disasters ". Would that be a book about the current crop of Weather Forecasters/Presenters? -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy "I wear the cheese. It does not wear me." |
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Graham P Davis writes: John Hall wrote: There's much of interest in Philip Eden's most recent book, "Great British Weather Disasters ". Would that be a book about the current crop of Weather Forecasters/Presenters? Now. now. ![]() -- John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now." Anon |
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