http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107014.stm

What a load of old ^%$*s

Keith (Southend)

Keith (Southend)G wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107014.stm

What a load of old ^%$*s


And your problem is?

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
"I wear the cheese. It does not wear me."

On 18 June, 13:24, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107014.stm

What a load of old ^%$*s

Keith (Southend)

"By 2080, between 2c and 6C hotter than present" ?????? Don't we
start to fry (literally) at 2C increase? I saw one press report
this morning of predictions of maxima of 41C in London.

Is it scare tactics or are they just trying to take the heat out of
the MP's expenses row by transferring it to the atmosphere?


- Tom.

On 18 June, 14:19, Graham P Davis wrote:
Keith (Southend)G wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107014.stm

What a load of old ^%$*s

And your problem is?

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. *E-mail: newsman not newsboy
"I wear the cheese. It does not wear me."

Fair comment, I should elaborate...

Firstly, I see the predictions as grossly exagerated and un realistic.
Many 'events' will be claimed to be due to climate change, when these
things happen anyway from time to time.

Secondly, it's going to be a continuing wonderful excuse to tax us
more. I can never see how taxing us for producing carbondioxide is
going to change anything, does it dissapear when you pay for it yet
hang around in the atmosphere if you don't ?

I'm less convinced than I was a couple of years ago. The main thing
that needs to be done is to stop chopping down trees worldwide, or
manage it properly. Unfortunately we have no control in what happens
around the World. I could go on...

Keith (Southend)

SNIP
The main thing
that needs to be done is to stop chopping down trees worldwide, or
manage it properly.

Keith (Southend)

Spot on, the equitorial rainforests are vital in taking CO2 out of the
atmosphere. We could make a real difference by reversing
deforestation. http://www.greenpeace.org/internatio...paigns/forests

Global CO2 emissions will continue to climb, as they have throughout
this century (with the possible exception of the last few months -
blimey the bankers are saving the world!) So the current rates of
deforestation are total madness.

Graham
Penzance

"Graham P Davis" wrote in message
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Keith (Southend)G wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107014.stm

What a load of old ^%$*s


And your problem is?

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
"I wear the cheese. It does not wear me."

The Met Office have been arm tweaked by this lefty corrupt government to
seed the ground for higher taxes. Hilary Benn is about as good as Michael
Meacher.

UkMO can't get their seasonal forecast right this is futile PC tax grabbing
boll&*ks

Watching Newsnight this evening it was so bleedin' obvious this bleedin'
heart government are well and truly behind it. The government UKMO report
hasn't even been peer reviewed.


The report was even heavily criticised by Myles Allen off DEFRA.

Actually BBC NewsNight made Benn looked like the fool he is.

I'll tell you what, this report and the issues around it prove further still
that UKMO is now just a propaganda tool for this government. When Kirsty
called Benn, on why if they thought AGW was such a threat and why they then
allow the controversial extention to Heathrow Airport; the man could only
bluster a load of tripe.

Finally: the BBC were pretty good in it's disection of this labour party
ukmo last ditched effort to win support from a dwindling electorate.and a
dying labour party.

See Susan Watts report here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight...dels_to_p.html
and here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight...june_2009.html

Keith (Southend)G wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107014.stm

What a load of old ^%$*s

Keith (Southend)

More Carbon Taxes to come then to pay for MP's expenses?

On Jun 18, 1:24*pm, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107014.stm

What a load of old ^%$*s

Keith (Southend)

The likelihood is that we will have a warmer future and that it will
have particular impacts. If we know this now, don't plan for this
likely change and it happens, how will future generations feel?

Should we do nothing because a small minority feel it's not going to
happen? Or should we trust the vast majority of scientists, including
those at the Hadley Centre, who have produced the research to back
these probable and possible scenarios (always possible/probable, the
Hadley Centre/MetO, IPCC and other bodies always deal with likelihoods
and probabilities when discussing climate change).

That's the choice the politicians have to make on the advice that they
are getting. I'd make the choice to prepare, ignore the sceptics and
conspiracists, but keep up to date with current research, employing
the best people possible to advise on this - as would most scientists
and most politicians. If things do change over the next 20 years,
cooler, or even warmer, we should react to the research that shows
those changes happening. That's what the current state of climate
research shows us and that's informing how we should proceed.

On Jun 19, 9:23*am, Dawlish wrote:
On Jun 18, 1:24*pm, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107014.stm

What a load of old ^%$*s

Keith (Southend)

The likelihood is that we will have a warmer future and that it will
have particular impacts. If we know this now, don't plan for this
likely change and it happens, how will future generations feel?

Should we do nothing because a small minority feel it's not going to
happen? Or should we trust the vast majority of scientists, including
those at the Hadley Centre, who have produced the research to back
these probable and possible scenarios (always possible/probable, the
Hadley Centre/MetO, IPCC and other bodies always deal with likelihoods
and probabilities when discussing climate change).

That's the choice the politicians have to make on the advice that they
are getting. I'd make the choice to prepare, ignore the sceptics and
conspiracists, but keep up to date with current research, employing
the best people possible to advise on this - as would most scientists
and most politicians. If things do change over the next 20 years,
cooler, or even warmer, we should react to the research that shows
those changes happening. That's what the current state of climate
research shows us and that's informing how we should proceed.

Here is what a Yank thinks of our efforts:
British Climate Change Act doomed to failure
http://environmentalresearchweb.org/.../futures/39529

Cheers, Alastair.