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On Jun 21, 11:12*am, Steve Willington
wrote: On Jun 21, 9:49*am, terry tibbs wrote: yes it is a cloudy high. the weekends forecast is much cloudier and lower temps than have been forecast all week. im just glad that dawlish got it wrong as well. as expected. Dawlish wrote: On Jun 19, 7:56 am, Nick wrote: Can't find any weather maps with fronts on (the weather.org.uk facility appears to have stopped) but it looks like this is going to be a particularly disappointing and front-encumbered high, with the only chance of prolonged sun being in the far south on Tuesday. This is particularly disappointing for what should be the sunniest time of year... can anyone confirm this? Nick How do you know? I don't think anyone can confirm it until it happens Nick! At the moment everything is a forecast and the forecast charts will always change somewhat before the events anyway. Judge it on outcome and enjoy the sunny weather if it happens, or curse the forecasters if it doesn't (that's what normally happens anyway!). Sc forecasting is a nightmare at any time of the year and has a huge impact on the weather and feel of the day. Steve.www.rockbeareweather.co.uk- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I agree entirely and thanks for the explanation. Best to judge how cloudy this high will have been after the high has actually drifted over us and away! Too many people try to pass judgement on forecasts before they've achieved outcome. There's been blogosphere condemnation of the MetO summer forecast (and on here too) already. There's people saying that this high is likely to be cloudy. It may well be and there is likely to be variable amounts of cloud, but I don't think it is possible to tell how much and where the cloud is likely to be, even now. It could be beautifully sunny in many areas. Personally, I doubt it, though I think, like the MetO does, that some areas will get plenty of sunshine from time-to-time. Other areas will probably be unlucky. I'm well aware, as is Steve, of the difficulties (impossibilities, I'd say) of the accurate prediction of cloud cover at even very short range, never mind long-range, in such a high as this. At the start of the thread, Nick said that the only chance of prolonged sun would be in the far south on Tuesday. I questioned how he could know this and it is still a good question. *)) As for me, on June 16th I made this forecast for this coming Friday; "At T240 on Friday 26th June, the majority of the UK will be experiencing higher than average pressure and many areas will be in a dry and a warm spell of weather." Knowing the impossibilities of predicting cloud cover, in such a summer anticyclone as this, I made no reference to it in the forecast. It's enough to be able to forecast, with a good chance of accuracy, that high pressure (or anything else, for that matter!) will actually BE there at 10 days, never mind trying to forecast the cloud cover associated with it in particular areas! No-one could do that. However, I think this forecast for Friday still has a good chance of achieving outcome as the models stand today. |
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