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Are his comments fair
http://www.climateaudit.org/ I for one definitely feel they've been increasingly turned into a tool for government nonsense London is rife with crime, only yesterday afternoon my daughter called me from Lordship Lane Dulwich SE London to say there had been an incident involving several stabbings (its been on the news today) we all know about the horrendous crime and lawlessness growing in our society yet the government stay oh so silent on these issues yet via UKMO and the government shout their concerned that a couple of people might die in a mythical heatwave? Surely loss of life is just as important whether it be from a crime or from AGW? Brown and Co don't seem to think so. Something is rotten in the state of misinformation. Okay not about weather direct but more about UKMO and its integrity and agenda. |
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On Jun 19, 3:50*pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:
I for one definitely feel they've been increasingly turned into a tool for government nonsense UKMO and its integrity and agenda. You feel it is that way. Good on you. As I've said, just because you feel it is so, does not make it so. Fortunately. |
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On Jun 19, 3:50*pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:
Are his comments fair http://www.climateaudit.org/ I for one definitely feel they've been increasingly turned into a tool for government nonsense Something is rotten in the state of misinformation. Okay not about weather direct but more about UKMO and its integrity and agenda. The page stated the following: "We have followed the contortions of the UK Met Office to avoid disclosing data. Last year John Mitchell, Chief Scientist at the UK Met Office, obstructed compliance with an FOI request for his IPCC review comments claiming his IPCC correspondence had been destroyed, then that it was his "personal" property, resiling when asked whether the Met Office had paid his salary and expenses for trips to IPCC destinations. The Hadley Center webpage are in conflict with Phil Jones' land station data (CRUTEM3) and his campaign to keep CRU station data secret. The Met Office webpage for downloading CRUTEM3 data hadobs.metoffice.com/crutem3/data/download.html presently says: "Most of the station data was given to us under conditions that don't allow us to redistribute it...." This raises several questions: 1) Who is attaching conditions to the station data and by what authority? 2) If it's Phil Jones, who is also subject to the UK Environmental Information Regulations, does he have the authority to attach conditions to the Met Office use of this data? 3) If the Met Office can't show their underlying data, maybe they should use data that they can. 4) Maybe whoever is funding Phil Jones (and I believe that the US Department of Energy is one of his funders) should require him to deliver the data back to them." ******* London is rife with crime, only yesterday afternoon my daughter called me from Lordship Lane Dulwich SE London to say there had been an incident involving several stabbings I can't see how tanks and full metal jacket policies the Toady B Liar used would have any affect on it ....but then I can't see what they would do against terrrists that five not so well armed Metropolitan Assassins can't. |
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![]() "Weatherlawyer" wrote in message ... On Jun 19, 3:50 pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote: Are his comments fair http://www.climateaudit.org/ I for one definitely feel they've been increasingly turned into a tool for government nonsense Something is rotten in the state of misinformation. Okay not about weather direct but more about UKMO and its integrity and agenda. The page stated the following: "We have followed the contortions of the UK Met Office to avoid disclosing data. Last year John Mitchell, Chief Scientist at the UK Met Office, obstructed compliance with an FOI request for his IPCC review comments claiming his IPCC correspondence had been destroyed, then that it was his "personal" property, resiling when asked whether the Met Office had paid his salary and expenses for trips to IPCC destinations. The Hadley Center webpage are in conflict with Phil Jones' land station data (CRUTEM3) and his campaign to keep CRU station data secret. The Met Office webpage for downloading CRUTEM3 data hadobs.metoffice.com/crutem3/data/download.html presently says: "Most of the station data was given to us under conditions that don't allow us to redistribute it...." This raises several questions: 1) Who is attaching conditions to the station data and by what authority? 2) If it's Phil Jones, who is also subject to the UK Environmental Information Regulations, does he have the authority to attach conditions to the Met Office use of this data? 3) If the Met Office can't show their underlying data, maybe they should use data that they can. 4) Maybe whoever is funding Phil Jones (and I believe that the US Department of Energy is one of his funders) should require him to deliver the data back to them." ******* London is rife with crime, only yesterday afternoon my daughter called me from Lordship Lane Dulwich SE London to say there had been an incident involving several stabbings I can't see how tanks and full metal jacket policies the Toady B Liar used would have any affect on it ....but then I can't see what they would do against terrrists that five not so well armed Metropolitan Assassins can't. Here weatherlawyer, I went to two Leonard Cohen Concerts one in November and the other earlier this year at the O2 arena. At both concerts the Leonard Cohen fans were searched for weapons , knives primarilay as they had to pass through the metal detectors. This really did make me angry and I remarked to security that the only dangerous implements that middle aged middle class Cohen fans would possibly be carrying would be razor blades to cut their wrists. This follwed my work colleague a middle aged women being searched for a knife on the platform of Rye Lane station in Peckham. Now two days after the last Cohen concert at the O2 the 'Urban Music' show took place, there was NO seaching of any of the audience, a massive fight broke out and several people were stabbed plus gunshot fire was heard. Now Cohen fans searced , usual suspect teenager not, explain that. http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...wards_O2_Arena Now I mention all this as there is something rotten in our government and institutions that can readiliy at the drop of their masters hat, be prepared to distort and bend.and UKMO is no exception. Sorry to those that feel this is wholly inappropiate and not weather related, however UKMO is tax funded and I'm a tax payer. UKMO are increasingly being worked directly from the Labour Party cabinet. That is wrong and will be shown to be the case in time. Sorry all, but there it is. |
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I'd forgotten how much I used to like Loenard Cohen till I saw the concert
on TV. While still not agreeing with your conspiracy theories it is true what you say about it doesn't matter how you die - at least to the loved ones. My biggest bugbear is the number of innocent bistanders being slaughtered in police car chases. They are huge but largely kept quiet. To commit manslaughter to solve a crime is outrageous although judging by the many tv programs showing these police chases the police clearly think it's a bit of fun. Dave |
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