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Oh, still plenty of basking sharks around, they've been around in
significant numbers since early May.

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In article
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Graham Easterling writes:
Reading this thread you wouldn't think that June for most was warm,
dry (with a few notable exceptions) & sunny.

snip

I was thinking that as well. Beyond a week or so out, we don't really
have any idea what will happen. I wonder if this may turn out to be an
episodic sort of summer, with continually alternating spells of good and
bad weather that last a couple of weeks, but that's purely speculation.

The important thing is that it should rain at Cardiff for most of
tomorrow.
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When was the last time we had three disappointing summers on the trot
or, to be more specific, when both July and August were poor?


I would class 1991, 1992, & 1993 as poor here in Devon.

Also 1985,1986, 1987 & 1988.

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The important thing is that it should rain at Cardiff for most of
tomorrow.


Looks like the only thing that can save our sorry bunch!!

Hard to believe the Aussies have lost 5 or 6 world class players and yet
they can still outclass England in their own back yard.
Hope we don't lose 5-0 that would be a grim Summer!
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"Graham" wrote in message
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The important thing is that it should rain at Cardiff for most of
tomorrow.


Looks like the only thing that can save our sorry bunch!!

Hard to believe the Aussies have lost 5 or 6 world class players and yet
they can still outclass England in their own back yard.
Hope we don't lose 5-0 that would be a grim Summer!
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I've lost interest. You cannot watch it nowadays anyway unless you have
access to Sky :-(
In 2005 it was brilliant, uniting the country, now it is all about money -
pathetic.

Will
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Back to meteorology. ISTM that the 564 DAM air to our SW is providing
"fuel" that is helping to maintain a more southerly location of the jet. I
said in another thread that I thought that the 564 DAM line was just a bit
further north than it should be. I wonder if this is a sign of things to
come in the next few years - wetter and more cloudy summers, contrary to
what GW "experts" predict for the UK.
Or is it all down to synoptics and a one-off? Having said that July can
often be a cyclonic month so perhaps we shouldn't worry too much, but the
persistent closeness of that warm and moist 564 DAM air is bothering me -
summat's up :-)

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On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:43:21 +0100, "Will Hand"
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I've lost interest. You cannot watch it nowadays anyway unless you have
access to Sky :-(


Freesat or Freeview?
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Will Hand wrote:

Back to meteorology. ISTM that the 564 DAM air to our SW is providing
"fuel" that is helping to maintain a more southerly location of the jet. I
said in another thread that I thought that the 564 DAM line was just a bit
further north than it should be. I wonder if this is a sign of things to
come in the next few years - wetter and more cloudy summers, contrary to
what GW "experts" predict for the UK.
Or is it all down to synoptics and a one-off? Having said that July can
often be a cyclonic month so perhaps we shouldn't worry too much, but the
persistent closeness of that warm and moist 564 DAM air is bothering me

-

I'm more inclined to believe that the appearance during June of a cold pool
in the SST anomalies in mid-Atlantic has had more to do with pushing the jet
further south. One thing in our favour is that the pool doesn't have an E-W
long axis typical of anomaly patterns that have been responsible for
prolonged cold westerlies.

As to GW being responsible for this pattern, I don't see why. The only
reason GW could cause something like this is if the NAD weakened
significantly or shut down altogether. The SST anomalies would then evolve
into a pattern similar to what I described above, only much more severe,
with a strong cold pool extending from Newfoundland to the UK. This would
lead to strong, cold, cyclonic westerlies over the UK but with low rainfall
because of the low SST.

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"Alan White" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:43:21 +0100, "Will Hand"
wrote:

I've lost interest. You cannot watch it nowadays anyway unless you have
access to Sky :-(


Freesat or Freeview?
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You have to pay extra nowadays for the privilege of watching the test
matches which used to be free to air. Sickening money-grabbing by the
cricket authorities, which will go the same way as football.

Will
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Alan White wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:43:21 +0100, "Will Hand"
wrote:

I've lost interest. You cannot watch it nowadays anyway unless you have
access to Sky :-(


Freesat or Freeview?


Only the highlights available on Five.

I see we're now 55-4! Never mind, 2005 Ashes started this badly.


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