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The was much excitement when the red line accelerated towards the 2007 line
but it is now heading back into the bunch:
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...Ice_Extent.png


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"Brian Wakem" wrote in message
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The was much excitement when the red line accelerated towards the 2007
line
but it is now heading back into the bunch:
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...Ice_Extent.png


Don't get Lawrence going

Whilst interesting to monitor on a daily basis, that line is only
a snapshot. It could just as easily head south again.
All of the lines tend to move around relative to one another
at different times of the year.
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Col

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"Brian Wakem" wrote in message
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The was much excitement when the red line accelerated towards the 2007
line
but it is now heading back into the bunch:
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...Ice_Extent.png


Good. I don't want the ice to melt.

Will
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"Col" wrote in message
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"Brian Wakem" wrote in message
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The was much excitement when the red line accelerated towards the 2007
line
but it is now heading back into the bunch:
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...Ice_Extent.png


Don't get Lawrence going

Whilst interesting to monitor on a daily basis, that line is only
a snapshot. It could just as easily head south again.
All of the lines tend to move around relative to one another
at different times of the year.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


A friend of mine was injured by the machinery where he works at a upholstery
shop, not to worry he's totally recovered. The recovery part reminds that
the Arctic ice will do the same.


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On Aug 2, 11:46*am, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:
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"Brian Wakem" wrote in message
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The was much excitement when the red line accelerated towards the 2007
line
but it is now heading back into the bunch:
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...Ice_Extent.png


Don't get Lawrence going


Whilst interesting to monitor on a daily basis, that line is only
a snapshot. It could just as easily head south again.
All of the lines tend to move around relative to one another
at different times of the year.
--
Col


Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


A friend of mine was injured by the machinery where he works at a upholstery
shop, not to worry he's totally recovered. The recovery part reminds that
the Arctic ice will do the same.


The Arctic ice was heading for a record low this year, but in now
seems to have stopped melting.
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/i...timeseries.png

No doubt it will all change again before September. Like weather and
climate, sea ice melt is chaotic.

Cheers, Alastair.


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On Aug 1, 8:41*am, Brian Wakem wrote:
The was much excitement when the red line accelerated towards the 2007 line
but it is now heading back into the bunch:http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...Ice_Extent.png

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There never was a panic; there was an acceleration that has slowed
over the past week. It's just a part of a long-term, well established
trend of less summer Arctic ice. It's also simply a snapshot that
you've referred to. My advice would be to not respond to the
snapshots, or you'll get like Lawrence; cherry picking sites to show
that melting was slower, back in April and thus a new trend had been
established, then only a week ago (and just as the acceleration was
about to slow) telling us all a new record low is about be set in
2009.

Stick to looking at the long-term trend and the reduction in summer
Arctic sea ice is unmistakeable and is highly likely to continue. I
don't believe and neither does the NSIDC, that the melt is chaotic.
Instead and despite the complexity of factors involved in sea ice
melt, the underlying reason is that global temperatures today are
higher than they were 40 years ago. You can't ignore the simple
physics. If the world and it's oceans get warmer, ice floating in that
water is highly likely to melt.
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Felly sgrifennodd Col :
It could just as easily head south again.


Oh what a lovely language English can be at times! The line on the graph
heads "south" whilst the line of the edge of the ice heads north.

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