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The was much excitement when the red line accelerated towards the 2007 line
but it is now heading back into the bunch: http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...Ice_Extent.png -- Brian Wakem |
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![]() "Brian Wakem" wrote in message ... The was much excitement when the red line accelerated towards the 2007 line but it is now heading back into the bunch: http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...Ice_Extent.png Don't get Lawrence going ![]() Whilst interesting to monitor on a daily basis, that line is only a snapshot. It could just as easily head south again. All of the lines tend to move around relative to one another at different times of the year. -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl |
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![]() "Brian Wakem" wrote in message ... The was much excitement when the red line accelerated towards the 2007 line but it is now heading back into the bunch: http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...Ice_Extent.png Good. I don't want the ice to melt. Will -- |
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![]() "Col" wrote in message ... "Brian Wakem" wrote in message ... The was much excitement when the red line accelerated towards the 2007 line but it is now heading back into the bunch: http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...Ice_Extent.png Don't get Lawrence going ![]() Whilst interesting to monitor on a daily basis, that line is only a snapshot. It could just as easily head south again. All of the lines tend to move around relative to one another at different times of the year. -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl A friend of mine was injured by the machinery where he works at a upholstery shop, not to worry he's totally recovered. The recovery part reminds that the Arctic ice will do the same. |
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On Aug 2, 11:46*am, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:
"Col" wrote in message ... "Brian Wakem" wrote in message ... The was much excitement when the red line accelerated towards the 2007 line but it is now heading back into the bunch: http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...Ice_Extent.png Don't get Lawrence going ![]() Whilst interesting to monitor on a daily basis, that line is only a snapshot. It could just as easily head south again. All of the lines tend to move around relative to one another at different times of the year. -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl A friend of mine was injured by the machinery where he works at a upholstery shop, not to worry he's totally recovered. The recovery part reminds that the Arctic ice will do the same. The Arctic ice was heading for a record low this year, but in now seems to have stopped melting. http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/i...timeseries.png No doubt it will all change again before September. Like weather and climate, sea ice melt is chaotic. Cheers, Alastair. |
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On Aug 1, 8:41*am, Brian Wakem wrote:
The was much excitement when the red line accelerated towards the 2007 line but it is now heading back into the bunch:http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...Ice_Extent.png -- Brian Wakem There never was a panic; there was an acceleration that has slowed over the past week. It's just a part of a long-term, well established trend of less summer Arctic ice. It's also simply a snapshot that you've referred to. My advice would be to not respond to the snapshots, or you'll get like Lawrence; cherry picking sites to show that melting was slower, back in April and thus a new trend had been established, then only a week ago (and just as the acceleration was about to slow) telling us all a new record low is about be set in 2009. Stick to looking at the long-term trend and the reduction in summer Arctic sea ice is unmistakeable and is highly likely to continue. I don't believe and neither does the NSIDC, that the melt is chaotic. Instead and despite the complexity of factors involved in sea ice melt, the underlying reason is that global temperatures today are higher than they were 40 years ago. You can't ignore the simple physics. If the world and it's oceans get warmer, ice floating in that water is highly likely to melt. |
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Felly sgrifennodd Col :
It could just as easily head south again. Oh what a lovely language English can be at times! The line on the graph heads "south" whilst the line of the edge of the ice heads north. Adrian -- Adrian Shaw ais@ Adran Cyfrifiadureg, Prifysgol Cymru, aber. Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Cymru ac. http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais/weather/ uk |
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