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I have been following the recent comments about the lack of rain by Dave
( Laindon) and Chris ( Swaffham) with interest. Yesterday's rain here contributed all of 2mm to my monthly total of 26mm for August so far. This is barely 50% of the 1971-2000 average. It doesn't look as though I shall get much more in the next few days ( famous last words?). The total for the 3 summer months, so far,is 122mm - 16% below the modern average. August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from the dryness, it looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more than 1deg.c above the 1971-2000 average) and the summer's mean is very close to ' normal'. Peter Clarke Ewell, Epsom 55m |
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On Aug 27, 11:32*am, "peter clarke" wrote:
I have been following *the recent comments about the lack of rain by *Dave ( Laindon) and Chris ( Swaffham) with interest. *Yesterday's rain here contributed all of 2mm *to my monthly total of 26mm *for August so far. This is barely 50% of the 1971-2000 average. It doesn't look as though *I shall get much more in the next few days ( famous last words?). The total for the 3 summer months, so far,is 122mm - 16% below the modern average. August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from the dryness, it *looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more than 1deg.c above the *1971-2000 average) and *the summer's mean is very close to *' normal'. Peter Clarke Ewell, Epsom 55m Does that include 2005 too incidentally? Shows what a difference 50 miles can make! Despite a fairly prolonged pleasant spell from around two weeks from the 7th, it looks like here (south Hampshire) we're locked into a run of cool days now until almost the month's end, meaning that, contrary to my expectations when I first saw the Bank Holiday charts, this will not have been a great month down here. It looks like it will be significantly drier than average, though, unless tomorrow's system is more active than expected. Nick |
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![]() "Nick" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 11:32 am, "peter clarke" wrote: August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from the dryness, it looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more than 1deg.c above the 1971-2000 average) and the summer's mean is very close to ' normal'. Peter Clarke Ewell, Epsom 55m Does that include 2005 too incidentally? Shows what a difference 50 miles can make! Nick Yes, Nick. The mean temperature here for August 2005 was 17.1c; this year it's above 18c so far. August 2005 was quite wet with70mm of rain. Peter Clarke |
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"peter clarke" wrote:
"Nick" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 11:32 am, "peter clarke" wrote: August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from the dryness, it looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more than 1deg.c above the 1971-2000 average) and the summer's mean is very close to ' normal'. Peter Clarke Ewell, Epsom 55m Does that include 2005 too incidentally? Shows what a difference 50 miles can make! Yes, Nick. The mean temperature here for August 2005 was 17.1c; this year it's above 18c so far. August 2005 was quite wet with70mm of rain. And it looks as though the CET for August may end up higher than any from 1956 to 1974 inclusive with the sole exception of 1959. Philip |
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On Aug 27, 6:15*pm, "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom
wrote: "peter clarke" wrote: "Nick" wrote in message .... On Aug 27, 11:32 am, "peter clarke" wrote: August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from the dryness, it looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more than 1deg.c above the 1971-2000 average) and the summer's mean is very close to ' normal'. Peter Clarke Ewell, Epsom 55m Does that include 2005 too incidentally? Shows what a difference 50 miles can make! Yes, Nick. The mean temperature here *for August 2005 was 17.1c; this year it's above 18c so far. August 2005 was quite wet with70mm of rain. And it looks as though the CET for August may end up higher than any from 1956 to 1974 inclusive with the sole exception of 1959. Philip- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I was born early in that period and I distinctly remember my summer holidays as warm and gloriously sunny! Funny what tricks weather memory can play! %)) |
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On Aug 27, 6:15*pm, "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom
wrote: "peter clarke" wrote: "Nick" wrote in message .... On Aug 27, 11:32 am, "peter clarke" wrote: August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from the dryness, it looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more than 1deg.c above the 1971-2000 average) and the summer's mean is very close to ' normal'. Peter Clarke Ewell, Epsom 55m Does that include 2005 too incidentally? Shows what a difference 50 miles can make! Yes, Nick. The mean temperature here *for August 2005 was 17.1c; this year it's above 18c so far. August 2005 was quite wet with70mm of rain. And it looks as though the CET for August may end up higher than any from 1956 to 1974 inclusive with the sole exception of 1959. Philip That does surprise me given the warmth seems to have been restricted to East Anglia and the SE, with other areas getting only seemingly "average" temperatures. I guess that says something rather unflattering about 1956-74: I wonder if people born in the 40s and early 50s, say, expect less of our summers than those born before or after then? Nick |
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, Nick writes: On Aug 27, 6:15*pm, "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote: "peter clarke" wrote: "Nick" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 11:32 am, "peter clarke" wrote: August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from the dryness, it looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more than 1deg.c above the 1971-2000 average) and the summer's mean is very close to ' normal'. Peter Clarke Ewell, Epsom 55m Does that include 2005 too incidentally? Shows what a difference 50 miles can make! Yes, Nick. The mean temperature here *for August 2005 was 17.1c; this year it's above 18c so far. August 2005 was quite wet with70mm of rain. And it looks as though the CET for August may end up higher than any from 1956 to 1974 inclusive with the sole exception of 1959. Philip That does surprise me given the warmth seems to have been restricted to East Anglia and the SE, with other areas getting only seemingly "average" temperatures. I guess that says something rather unflattering about 1956-74: I wonder if people born in the 40s and early 50s, say, expect less of our summers than those born before or after then? Possibly. I was born in 1948, and having an interest in both cricket and the weather can remember plenty of summers in the 1960s and early 1970s far worse than this one has been - at least where I live in Surrey. It seemed common back then for Tests to lose a day or more's play. Now it's a rarity. Of course improvements in coverage and drainage have something to do with that. As soon as the Met Office recanted on their "barbecue summer" forecast the weather seemed to pick up, but even July wasn't that terrible here compared with what I remember from forty years or so ago. -- John Hall "Home is heaven and orgies are vile, But you *need* an orgy, once in a while." Ogden Nash (1902-1971) |
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![]() That does surprise me given the warmth seems to have been restricted to East Anglia and the SE, with other areas getting only seemingly "average" temperatures. I guess that says something rather unflattering about 1956-74: I wonder if people born in the 40s and early 50s, say, expect less of our summers than those born before or after then? Possibly. I was born in 1948, and having an interest in both cricket and the weather can remember plenty of summers in the 1960s and early 1970s far worse than this one has been - at least where I live in Surrey. It seemed common back then for Tests to lose a day or more's play. Now it's a rarity. Of course improvements in coverage and drainage have something to do with that. As soon as the Met Office recanted on their "barbecue summer" forecast the weather seemed to pick up, but even July wasn't that terrible here compared with what I remember from forty years or so ago. -- John Hall "Home is heaven and orgies are vile, But you *need* an orgy, once in a while." Ogden Nash (1902-1971) John, your comment about the Tests reminds me that in the ghastly summer of 1954, I had tickets for the first 3 days of the first ever Test at Lord's between England and Pakistan. It was in the middle of June , and it was overcast and rained for the 3 days. The only action I saw was of some of the England players - Hutton, Compton, Bedser etc- walking on the pitch with umbrellas to look at the wicket. Play eventually started on the 4th day - when I was back at work! Peter Clarke |
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:41:06 +0100, peter clarke wrote:
"Nick" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 11:32 am, "peter clarke" wrote: August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from the dryness, it looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more than 1deg.c above the 1971-2000 average) and the summer's mean is very close to ' normal'. Peter Clarke Ewell, Epsom 55m Does that include 2005 too incidentally? Shows what a difference 50 miles can make! Nick Yes, Nick. The mean temperature here for August 2005 was 17.1c; this year it's above 18c so far. August 2005 was quite wet with70mm of rain. Peter Clarke Best August since 2004, mean temperature up to the 24th 17.9C and the rainfall to date 32.3mm. Of that 20.1mm fell on the 6th. Alan Gardiner Chiswell Green, St Albans 101m ASL 27/08/2009 23:01:04 |
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:36:16 +0100, peter clarke wrote:
That does surprise me given the warmth seems to have been restricted to East Anglia and the SE, with other areas getting only seemingly "average" temperatures. I guess that says something rather unflattering about 1956-74: I wonder if people born in the 40s and early 50s, say, expect less of our summers than those born before or after then? Possibly. I was born in 1948, and having an interest in both cricket and the weather can remember plenty of summers in the 1960s and early 1970s far worse than this one has been - at least where I live in Surrey. It seemed common back then for Tests to lose a day or more's play. Now it's a rarity. Of course improvements in coverage and drainage have something to do with that. As soon as the Met Office recanted on their "barbecue summer" forecast the weather seemed to pick up, but even July wasn't that terrible here compared with what I remember from forty years or so ago. -- John Hall "Home is heaven and orgies are vile, But you *need* an orgy, once in a while." Ogden Nash (1902-1971) John, your comment about the Tests reminds me that in the ghastly summer of 1954, I had tickets for the first 3 days of the first ever Test at Lord's between England and Pakistan. It was in the middle of June , and it was overcast and rained for the 3 days. The only action I saw was of some of the England players - Hutton, Compton, Bedser etc- walking on the pitch with umbrellas to look at the wicket. Play eventually started on the 4th day - when I was back at work! Peter Clarke We went to North Wales for our summer holiday that year and had two weeks of what seemed to me at age 8 to be constant rain and wind. It has rather put me off going back although since then I have had superb weather in Pembrokeshire on several visits. Alan Gardiner Chiswell Green, St Albans 101m ASL 27/08/2009 23:06:03 |
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