I have been following the recent comments about the lack of rain by Dave
( Laindon) and Chris ( Swaffham) with interest. Yesterday's rain here
contributed all of 2mm to my monthly total of 26mm for August so far. This
is barely 50% of the 1971-2000 average. It doesn't look as though I shall
get much more in the next few days ( famous last words?). The total for the
3 summer months, so far,is 122mm - 16% below the modern average.

August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from the
dryness, it looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more
than 1deg.c above the 1971-2000 average) and the summer's mean is very
close to ' normal'.

Peter Clarke
Ewell, Epsom 55m

On Aug 27, 11:32*am, "peter clarke" wrote:
I have been following *the recent comments about the lack of rain by *Dave
( Laindon) and Chris ( Swaffham) with interest. *Yesterday's rain here
contributed all of 2mm *to my monthly total of 26mm *for August so far. This
is barely 50% of the 1971-2000 average. It doesn't look as though *I shall
get much more in the next few days ( famous last words?). The total for the
3 summer months, so far,is 122mm - 16% below the modern average.

August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from the
dryness, it *looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more
than 1deg.c above the *1971-2000 average) and *the summer's mean is very
close to *' normal'.

Peter Clarke
Ewell, Epsom 55m

Does that include 2005 too incidentally? Shows what a difference 50
miles can make! Despite a fairly prolonged pleasant spell from around
two weeks from the 7th, it looks like here (south Hampshire) we're
locked into a run of cool days now until almost the month's end,
meaning that, contrary to my expectations when I first saw the Bank
Holiday charts, this will not have been a great month down here. It
looks like it will be significantly drier than average, though, unless
tomorrow's system is more active than expected.

Nick

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On Aug 27, 11:32 am, "peter clarke" wrote:


August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from the
dryness, it looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more
than 1deg.c above the 1971-2000 average) and the summer's mean is very
close to ' normal'.

Peter Clarke
Ewell, Epsom 55m

Does that include 2005 too incidentally? Shows what a difference 50
miles can make!

Nick

Yes, Nick. The mean temperature here for August 2005 was 17.1c; this year
it's above 18c so far.
August 2005 was quite wet with70mm of rain.

Peter Clarke

"peter clarke" wrote:
"Nick" wrote in message
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On Aug 27, 11:32 am, "peter clarke" wrote:

August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from
the
dryness, it looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more
than 1deg.c above the 1971-2000 average) and the summer's mean is very
close to ' normal'.

Peter Clarke
Ewell, Epsom 55m

Does that include 2005 too incidentally? Shows what a difference 50
miles can make!

Yes, Nick. The mean temperature here for August 2005 was 17.1c; this year
it's above 18c so far.
August 2005 was quite wet with70mm of rain.

And it looks as though the CET for August may end up higher than
any from 1956 to 1974 inclusive with the sole exception of 1959.

Philip

On Aug 27, 6:15*pm, "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom
wrote:
"peter clarke" wrote:
"Nick" wrote in message
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On Aug 27, 11:32 am, "peter clarke" wrote:

August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from
the
dryness, it looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more
than 1deg.c above the 1971-2000 average) and the summer's mean is very
close to ' normal'.

Peter Clarke
Ewell, Epsom 55m

Does that include 2005 too incidentally? Shows what a difference 50
miles can make!

Yes, Nick. The mean temperature here *for August 2005 was 17.1c; this year
it's above 18c so far.
August 2005 was quite wet with70mm of rain.

And it looks as though the CET for August may end up higher than
any from 1956 to 1974 inclusive with the sole exception of 1959.

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I was born early in that period and I distinctly remember my summer
holidays as warm and gloriously sunny! Funny what tricks weather
memory can play! %))

On Aug 27, 6:15*pm, "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom
wrote:
"peter clarke" wrote:
"Nick" wrote in message
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On Aug 27, 11:32 am, "peter clarke" wrote:

August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from
the
dryness, it looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more
than 1deg.c above the 1971-2000 average) and the summer's mean is very
close to ' normal'.

Peter Clarke
Ewell, Epsom 55m

Does that include 2005 too incidentally? Shows what a difference 50
miles can make!

Yes, Nick. The mean temperature here *for August 2005 was 17.1c; this year
it's above 18c so far.
August 2005 was quite wet with70mm of rain.

And it looks as though the CET for August may end up higher than
any from 1956 to 1974 inclusive with the sole exception of 1959.

Philip

That does surprise me given the warmth seems to have been restricted
to East Anglia and the SE, with other areas getting only seemingly
"average" temperatures. I guess that says something rather
unflattering about 1956-74: I wonder if people born in the 40s and
early 50s, say, expect less of our summers than those born before or
after then?

Nick

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Nick writes:
On Aug 27, 6:15*pm, "Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom
wrote:
"peter clarke" wrote:
"Nick" wrote in message
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On Aug 27, 11:32 am, "peter clarke" wrote:

August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from
the
dryness, it looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more
than 1deg.c above the 1971-2000 average) and the summer's mean is very
close to ' normal'.

Peter Clarke
Ewell, Epsom 55m

Does that include 2005 too incidentally? Shows what a difference 50
miles can make!

Yes, Nick. The mean temperature here *for August 2005 was 17.1c; this year
it's above 18c so far.
August 2005 was quite wet with70mm of rain.

And it looks as though the CET for August may end up higher than
any from 1956 to 1974 inclusive with the sole exception of 1959.

Philip

That does surprise me given the warmth seems to have been restricted
to East Anglia and the SE, with other areas getting only seemingly
"average" temperatures. I guess that says something rather
unflattering about 1956-74: I wonder if people born in the 40s and
early 50s, say, expect less of our summers than those born before or
after then?

Possibly. I was born in 1948, and having an interest in both cricket and
the weather can remember plenty of summers in the 1960s and early 1970s
far worse than this one has been - at least where I live in Surrey. It
seemed common back then for Tests to lose a day or more's play. Now it's
a rarity. Of course improvements in coverage and drainage have something
to do with that.

As soon as the Met Office recanted on their "barbecue summer" forecast
the weather seemed to pick up, but even July wasn't that terrible here
compared with what I remember from forty years or so ago.
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

That does surprise me given the warmth seems to have been restricted
to East Anglia and the SE, with other areas getting only seemingly
"average" temperatures. I guess that says something rather
unflattering about 1956-74: I wonder if people born in the 40s and
early 50s, say, expect less of our summers than those born before or
after then?

Possibly. I was born in 1948, and having an interest in both cricket and
the weather can remember plenty of summers in the 1960s and early 1970s
far worse than this one has been - at least where I live in Surrey. It
seemed common back then for Tests to lose a day or more's play. Now it's
a rarity. Of course improvements in coverage and drainage have something
to do with that.

As soon as the Met Office recanted on their "barbecue summer" forecast
the weather seemed to pick up, but even July wasn't that terrible here
compared with what I remember from forty years or so ago.
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

John, your comment about the Tests reminds me that in the ghastly summer of
1954,
I had tickets for the first 3 days of the first ever Test at Lord's between
England and Pakistan.
It was in the middle of June , and it was overcast and rained for the 3
days. The only action I saw was of some of the England players - Hutton,
Compton, Bedser etc- walking on the pitch with umbrellas to look at the
wicket. Play eventually started on the 4th day - when I was back at work!

Peter Clarke

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:41:06 +0100, peter clarke wrote:

"Nick" wrote in message
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On Aug 27, 11:32 am, "peter clarke" wrote:


August has been quite a respectable month for weather here. Apart from the
dryness, it looks like being the warmest for 5 years ( the mean is more
than 1deg.c above the 1971-2000 average) and the summer's mean is very
close to ' normal'.

Peter Clarke
Ewell, Epsom 55m

Does that include 2005 too incidentally? Shows what a difference 50
miles can make!

Nick

Yes, Nick. The mean temperature here for August 2005 was 17.1c; this year
it's above 18c so far.
August 2005 was quite wet with70mm of rain.

Peter Clarke

Best August since 2004, mean temperature up to the 24th 17.9C and the
rainfall to date 32.3mm. Of that 20.1mm fell on the 6th.


Alan Gardiner
Chiswell Green, St Albans
101m ASL
27/08/2009 23:01:04

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:36:16 +0100, peter clarke wrote:


That does surprise me given the warmth seems to have been restricted
to East Anglia and the SE, with other areas getting only seemingly
"average" temperatures. I guess that says something rather
unflattering about 1956-74: I wonder if people born in the 40s and
early 50s, say, expect less of our summers than those born before or
after then?

Possibly. I was born in 1948, and having an interest in both cricket and
the weather can remember plenty of summers in the 1960s and early 1970s
far worse than this one has been - at least where I live in Surrey. It
seemed common back then for Tests to lose a day or more's play. Now it's
a rarity. Of course improvements in coverage and drainage have something
to do with that.

As soon as the Met Office recanted on their "barbecue summer" forecast
the weather seemed to pick up, but even July wasn't that terrible here
compared with what I remember from forty years or so ago.
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

John, your comment about the Tests reminds me that in the ghastly summer of
1954,
I had tickets for the first 3 days of the first ever Test at Lord's between
England and Pakistan.
It was in the middle of June , and it was overcast and rained for the 3
days. The only action I saw was of some of the England players - Hutton,
Compton, Bedser etc- walking on the pitch with umbrellas to look at the
wicket. Play eventually started on the 4th day - when I was back at work!

Peter Clarke

We went to North Wales for our summer holiday that year and had two weeks
of what seemed to me at age 8 to be constant rain and wind. It has rather
put me off going back although since then I have had superb weather in
Pembrokeshire on several visits.




Alan Gardiner
Chiswell Green, St Albans
101m ASL
27/08/2009 23:06:03