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Alan Murphy wrote:
Do I detect a slight cooling in the air? http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...sep/16/global- temperature-cooling Cycles are easy to spot in past records - trouble is that as soon as you try to use them for forecasting, they usually vanish. However, if one believes in that sort of thing, a seven-to-eight-year cycle has been occurring for a while. If that continues, in about three or four years, we should see a peak in global temperature of more than 0.1C above that of 1998. This cycle might coincide with a theory that I heard forty years ago. That said that El Nino had a roughly seven-year cycle. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy "I wear the cheese. It does not wear me." |
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On 17 Sep, 12:25, Graham P Davis wrote:
Alan Murphy wrote: Do I detect a slight cooling in the air? http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...sep/16/global- temperature-cooling Cycles are easy to spot in past records - trouble is that as soon as you try to use them for forecasting, they usually vanish. However, if one believes in that sort of thing, a seven-to-eight-year cycle has been occurring for a while. If that continues, in about three or four years, we should see a peak in global temperature of more than 0.1C above that of 1998. This cycle might coincide with a theory that I heard forty years ago. That said that El Nino had a roughly seven-year cycle. The trouble with anything that hints of a cyclical nature is that unless you completely understand the cycle you get divots sniping at you for doing your best with what you do know. I suppose one might say that the problem with fluid mechanics is that nobody understands that either. So picking out cycles that fit into it are or is next to impossible. However god has been very kind to us and allows us to work with generalities, for instance: Where we can apply a section of statistical data on one phenomena there is a chance of it occurring once again. Sort of how they finally dropped on tornado forecasting. You don't have to be gifted to know what local conditions tend to lead to and you can give those ideal numbers or whatever those Bernoulie and Reynolds things are called. Then if they also widen out usefully you can assimilate them into other phenomena. It's all I do after all. The trouble is that the catering is sometimes handled by other firms and my stuff falls apart. As for other cycles, I just got the hand grips off the bars on mine and can now play with stem adjustments and stuff. So I am pretty choughed out at the moment. I don't know why I waited so long. (Well yes I do. The things never go back the way they were once you start messing around. Now I will miss the firm warm grips as they will never fit so tightly when I put them back. I suppose I will have to find the right glue.) |
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![]() "Weatherlawyer" wrote in message ... On 17 Sep, 12:25, Graham P Davis wrote: Alan Murphy wrote: Do I detect a slight cooling in the air? http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...sep/16/global- temperature-cooling Cycles are easy to spot in past records - trouble is that as soon as you try to use them for forecasting, they usually vanish. However, if one believes in that sort of thing, a seven-to-eight-year cycle has been occurring for a while. If that continues, in about three or four years, we should see a peak in global temperature of more than 0.1C above that of 1998. This cycle might coincide with a theory that I heard forty years ago. That said that El Nino had a roughly seven-year cycle. The trouble with anything that hints of a cyclical nature is that unless you completely understand the cycle you get divots sniping at you for doing your best with what you do know. I suppose one might say that the problem with fluid mechanics is that nobody understands that either. So picking out cycles that fit into it are or is next to impossible. However god has been very kind to us and allows us to work with generalities, for instance: Where we can apply a section of statistical data on one phenomena there is a chance of it occurring once again. Sort of how they finally dropped on tornado forecasting. You don't have to be gifted to know what local conditions tend to lead to and you can give those ideal numbers or whatever those Bernoulie and Reynolds things are called. Then if they also widen out usefully you can assimilate them into other phenomena. It's all I do after all. The trouble is that the catering is sometimes handled by other firms and my stuff falls apart. As for other cycles, I just got the hand grips off the bars on mine and can now play with stem adjustments and stuff. So I am pretty choughed out at the moment. I don't know why I waited so long. (Well yes I do. The things never go back the way they were once you start messing around. Now I will miss the firm warm grips as they will never fit so tightly when I put them back. I suppose I will have to find the right glue.) Very good points WL and as if to prove nobodies point David Millband is demanding that old bikes be recycled on a tandem basis. |
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On Sep 17, 6:03*pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message ... On 17 Sep, 12:25, Graham P Davis wrote: Alan Murphy wrote: Do I detect a slight cooling in the air? http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...sep/16/global- temperature-cooling Cycles are easy to spot in past records - trouble is that as soon as you try to use them for forecasting, they usually vanish. However, if one believes in that sort of thing, a seven-to-eight-year cycle has been occurring for a while. If that continues, in about three or four years, we should see a peak in global temperature of more than 0.1C above that of 1998. This cycle might coincide with a theory that I heard forty years ago. That said that El Nino had a roughly seven-year cycle. The trouble with anything that hints of a cyclical nature is that unless you completely understand the cycle you get divots sniping at you for doing your best with what you do know. I suppose one might say that the problem with fluid mechanics is that nobody understands that either. So picking out cycles that fit into it are or is next to impossible. However god has been very kind to us and allows us to work with generalities, for instance: Where we can apply a section of statistical data on one phenomena there is a chance of it occurring once again. Sort of how they finally dropped on tornado forecasting. You don't have to be gifted to know what local conditions tend to lead to and you can give those ideal numbers or whatever those Bernoulie and Reynolds things are called. Then if they also widen out usefully you can assimilate them into other phenomena. It's all I do after all. The trouble is that the catering is sometimes handled by other firms and my stuff falls apart. As for other cycles, I just got the hand grips off the bars on mine and can now play with stem adjustments and stuff. So I am pretty choughed out at the moment. I don't know why I waited so long. (Well yes I do. The things never go back the way they were once you start messing around. Now I will miss the firm warm grips as they will never fit so tightly when I put them back. I suppose I will have to find the right glue.) As if to prove nobody's point, David Millband is demanding that old bikes be recycled on a tandem basis. Remind me, which one is he? I just put a longer stem under the handlebars. I am amazed at the comfort I have now and the ability to more than the dog turds on my front wheel. I might even invest in a mudguard so I don't have to look at it all that often. Feels powerful I can see over hedges now and look lorry drivers in the eye as I cut them up. /Feels powerful |
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