I'm rather new to meteorology, but I was very surprised to see 582dm
thinkness at about 45 degress latitude, is this normal ?


"Simon S" wrote in message
m...
I have never seen a chart quite like this. So much energy still
attached to FABIAN with thickness upto 582 dm. Its also having the
effect of draging 528 dm air down early in the season.

If this hits the UK then it will bring a serious end to the drought!


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/brack4a.gif

"Joe" wrote in message
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I'm rather new to meteorology, but I was very
surprised to see 582dm
thinkness at about 45 degress latitude, is this
normal ?


Check out Josephine, mid 80's IIRC. She eventually
gave the SW of England a bit of a battering,
including me and my tent!

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Joe, perfectly normal round a ex-hurricane. Truth is nobody know the true
thickness and to some extent it is irrelevant, the main point is that the air is
still very warm and moist. It doesn't look poised to do much in the UK, but the
forward 'ordinary' low will give plenty of rain by looks of things.

" A little old lady came in from next door and said there's a hurricane on the
charts .... " he he he

Will.
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Joe wrote in message ...
I'm rather new to meteorology, but I was very surprised to see 582dm
thinkness at about 45 degress latitude, is this normal ?


"Simon S" wrote in message
om...
I have never seen a chart quite like this. So much energy still
attached to FABIAN with thickness upto 582 dm. Its also having the
effect of draging 528 dm air down early in the season.

If this hits the UK then it will bring a serious end to the drought!


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/brack4a.gif

Wasnt the late summer bank holiday in 1986 wrecked by the remains of
Hurricane Charlie?


"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
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I've generally found that any ex-hurricane in the north Atlantic races to
the west of Iceland and maintains high air pressure in our region.

Keith (Southend)

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"Joe" wrote in message
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I'm rather new to meteorology, but I was very surprised to see 582dm
thinkness at about 45 degress latitude, is this normal ?


"Simon S" wrote in message
m...
I have never seen a chart quite like this. So much energy still
attached to FABIAN with thickness upto 582 dm. Its also having the
effect of draging 528 dm air down early in the season.

If this hits the UK then it will bring a serious end to the drought!


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/brack4a.gif

"AliCat" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
...
I'm rather new to meteorology, but I was very
surprised to see 582dm
thinkness at about 45 degress latitude, is this
normal ?


Check out Josephine, mid 80's IIRC. She eventually
gave the SW of England a bit of a battering,
including me and my tent!

Another of note was ex-Hurricane Lili which packed a real punch across
southern Britain in 1996, http://members.aol.com/windgusts/Lili.html#HISTORY

Jon.

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 01:12:50 +0100, "Jon O'Rourke"
wrote:

"AliCat" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
...
I'm rather new to meteorology, but I was very
surprised to see 582dm
thinkness at about 45 degress latitude, is this
normal ?


Check out Josephine, mid 80's IIRC. She eventually
gave the SW of England a bit of a battering,
including me and my tent!

Another of note was ex-Hurricane Lili which packed a real punch across
southern Britain in 1996, http://members.aol.com/windgusts/Lili.html#HISTORY

I remember that one now, here's a chart of its track across most of
the Atlantic: http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at199612.asp

Surprisingly, the tracking information below the chart still denotes
it as a "tropical storm" with nominal winds of 65Kt (isn't that
hurricane force?) when over England late on the 28th October 1996.

Here's a photo of Lili sitting squarely over England on 28th October.
http://www-grtr.u-strasbg.fr/quickNo...8/28346412.jpg
You can just see the coasts of East Anglia and Eastern Kent poking out
from the Eastern edge of the cloudbank near the mid-top of the photo.

All this information out there, free to see and drool over. The
Internet is a wonderful thing!

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Dave

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 03:50:55 +0100, Dave Ludlow
wrote:

I remember that one now, here's a chart of its track across most of
the Atlantic: http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at199612.asp

Surprisingly, the tracking information below the chart still denotes
it as a "tropical storm" with nominal winds of 65Kt (isn't that
hurricane force?) when over England late on the 28th October 1996.

Oops, it's 65 mph not knots (it's late). Anyway, as I've now had to
reply to my own post, here's the topkarten mslp reanalysis I found
for 27th, 28th and 29th Oct (00Z) 1996:

http://217.160.176.95/wz/pics/archiv...0119961027.gif
http://217.160.176.95/wz/pics/archiv...0119961028.gif
http://217.160.176.95/wz/pics/archiv...0119961029.gif

Interesting how the reanalysis chart for the 27th fails to indicate
the intensity of the storm when it was still small scale, showing a
central isobar of 1000 mb at a time and place when the central
pressure was 978 mb.

--
Dave

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:21:41 -0000, "Jim Smith"
wrote:

Wasnt the late summer bank holiday in 1986 wrecked by the remains of
Hurricane Charlie?

Yes.. It stopped Ian Bothan finishing off New Zealand...
A foul day in Loughborough....

Richard Webb

Strangely enough, thats what I remember most about that day, apart from the
torrential rain and high winds....

Jim
"RJ Webb" wrote in message
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On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:21:41 -0000, "Jim Smith"
wrote:

Wasnt the late summer bank holiday in 1986 wrecked by the remains of
Hurricane Charlie?

Yes.. It stopped Ian Bothan finishing off New Zealand...
A foul day in Loughborough....

Richard Webb