Hi! Since the demise of Wolfgang Roeder's site (Berlin.ac) does anyone
have the URL of two to 4 month forecasts?
Cheers
Paul
Wisest are they that know they do not know." Socrates
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Height 390FT amsl. 52.80'N 00.75'W. Central England forecasts
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Will,

That's rather childish don't you think? I agree, that previously our
forecasts were little better than an "educated" guess but the new forecasts
are created through my ongoing work with NOAA, thanks to the American
freedom of information and very talented individuals over the pond.

"Love begins when Judgement ceases"..... or do you not agree with that Will?
I'll be quite happy to discuss my work with you with regards to NOAA in
private, assuming I have time and you stop being so judgemental.

A

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Paul, for the best guesswork on the Net visit www.theweatheroutlook.com or
for
even better guesswork www.metcheck.com

Will.
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Paul Bartlett wrote in message ...
Hi! Since the demise of Wolfgang Roeder's site (Berlin.ac) does anyone
have the URL of two to 4 month forecasts?
Cheers
Paul
Wisest are they that know they do not know." Socrates
Site 25 miles on a bearing 240deg from the Wash.
Height 390FT amsl. 52.80'N 00.75'W. Central England forecasts
www.rutnet.co.uk, right hand side weather at the bottom includes 9 day
forecasts. Paul Bartlett (01572 812243)

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"Andrew Bond" wrote in message
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Will,

That's rather childish don't you think? I agree, that previously our
forecasts were little better than an "educated" guess but the new
forecasts
are created through my ongoing work with NOAA, thanks to the American
freedom of information and very talented individuals over the pond.

"Love begins when Judgement ceases"..... or do you not agree with that
Will?
I'll be quite happy to discuss my work with you with regards to NOAA in
private, assuming I have time and you stop being so judgemental.


Perhaps Will could have put it more diplomatically!
However, I suppose *all* long range forecasts (including those from
professional forecasters) are in part guesswork.
Except any I may attempt as they are based on past figures with no manual
interpretation needed. :-))

Victor

I was once told by a "employee" of the Met Office a few months back what
they really think of the previously mentioned sites. (Fully agree with your
comments Will).

Complete waste of bandwidth IMO, and pointless forecasting which is
inacurrate and misleading.

Tom
Docklands, East London

theweatherguesswork.com

Yeah, the Met Office always get their LFRs spot on whereas the
amateurs are always wrong....

If you want a good LFR the best thing is to look at all the available
LFRs including TWO, Metcheck, Ukweatherworld and Tom Presutti and from
them get a consensus opinion.

Slagging off amateur LRFs is just stupid and juvenille - or maybe it's
sour grapes because they get it right more often than the
professionals?

btw: I guess the (non-subscription) MetO LRF for autumn reads
something like: "Turning gradually colder and wetter".

Andy

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UKWeatherWorld Manager
http://www.ukweatherworld.co.uk

MBA Newsletter Editor
http://www.mountainbothies.

Slagging off amateur LRFs is just stupid and juvenille - or maybe it's
sour grapes because they get it right more often than the
professionals?


hah best laugh ive heard all morning

On 4 Sep 2003 01:51:38 -0700, (Andy Mayhew)
wrote:

Slagging off amateur LRFs is just stupid and juvenille - or maybe it's
sour grapes because they get it right more often than the
professionals?

Do they really "get it right more often..."? If this is what you are
suggesting, can you provide or link to independent evidence to support
it?

--
Dave

"Ken Cook" wrote in message
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"Scott Whitehead" wrote in message

snip

Looking back through my records and George Booth's at Epping, Essex,
the winter of 1995 / 96 wasn't particularly remarkable.
Three cold spells in mid November, post Christmas / New Year and end
of January / early February. George recorded 16 ice days
though there wasn't much significant snowfall.

Hi, Scott,

16 ice days (max below 0C) in Epping. Surely that is a cold winter? it
was certainly cold and snowy here.


In fact only 4 'Ice Days' days in Epping (with max 0°C) in Winter
1995/1996. Thin snow cover at 0900 on 10 mornings in December '95and 3 in
January '96. December '95 cold (2.7degC below normal) but January '96
normal. Have to go all the way back to the 1980's for winters with a
significant number of Ice Days. 1986/87 (9), 1984/85 (15) and 1981/82 (12).
Most recent Ice Day here was 30/12/2000.

All the best

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George in Epping, West Essex (107m asl)
www.eppingweather.co.uk

"Dave Ludlow" wrote in message
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On 4 Sep 2003 01:51:38 -0700, (Andy Mayhew)
wrote:

Slagging off amateur LRFs is just stupid and juvenille - or maybe it's
sour grapes because they get it right more often than the
professionals?

Do they really "get it right more often..."? If this is what you are
suggesting, can you provide or link to independent evidence to support
it?

It's difficult to compare. At least TWO and Metcheck are prepared to
publicise their forecasts.
All you ever see from the Met Office are vague and almost useless
soundbites like 'warm and dry at first, then becoming wetter and windier'.
More detailed long range forecasts do exist of course, but they cost
several hundred pounds.

Col
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Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk