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Isn't she awful! We are in for a blustery old day today and a chilly old
start tomorrow (BBC News 24 at 11.30).

I don't think I took in what she said about the actual weather.

I think we need a few articulate old presenters on TV if real forecasters
are too expensive.

Roger



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Isn't she awful! We are in for a blustery old day today and a chilly old
start tomorrow (BBC News 24 at 11.30).

I don't think I took in what she said about the actual weather.

I think we need a few articulate old presenters on TV if real forecasters
are too expensive.

Roger

Carol Kirkwood is good at getting the general message across in her weather
for younger viewers on BBC breakfast. Others simply don't command attention.
And at least Carol always gives Scotland a mention.

The banner headline which is meant to sum up the entire British Isles'
(South East England's) expected weather should be obliterated.


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On 26 Nov, 13:30, "David Haggas" wrote:

snip

The banner headline which is meant to sum up the entire British Isles'
(South East England's) expected weather should be obliterated.


And so should the zooming around the UK part. I honestly don't see
what this adds to our knowledge of the weather. I can see what it's
going to be like from the map of the whole UK. It's especially bad on
days where the whole of the UK is pretty much the same, but still they
have to zoom around, and try and think of different ways to phrase the
same thing:

"...in the south east it will be a dry day and around 20 deg. Towards
the south west it will also be dry, with temperatures around 20 deg.
It is a similar story in Scotland. A lot of dry weather around..."
Aargh!

And also, while I'm here, why does the weather map show us France, the
Netherlands, Denmark, Norway and Sweden? Why not get rid of these, and
have the British Isles take up more of the screen?

That's enough complaining for now!

Liam
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On Nov 26, 11:38*am, "Roger Smith" wrote:
Isn't she awful! *We are in for a blustery old day today and a chilly old
start tomorrow (BBC News 24 at 11.30).

I don't think I took in what she said about the actual weather.

I think we need a few articulate old presenters on TV if real forecasters
are too expensive.

Roger


Yes, I'm getting into a right old state about it as I head
through the afternoon period. I get all my BBC forecasts from Radio 4
and radio presentation is in some ways more difficult than TV,
something you would have thought the BBC would have recognised.
Laura Tobyn doesn't seem engaged with the subject, somehow, and
sounds a bit like a robot, or a dentist's receptionist (ooh, snobby
old git). Having said that, she is better than Tomas Schaffernacker
(spelling?) who still manages to waffle and confuse, despite the new
format. He sounds nervous and frankly a bit wet. Neither should be
doing this job - they are simply unsuitable. The best by far is Peter
Gibbs who sounds as if he is delivering information about something he
really knows about and wants us to understand.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.
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"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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On Nov 26, 11:38 am, "Roger Smith" wrote:
Isn't she awful! We are in for a blustery old day today and a chilly old
start tomorrow (BBC News 24 at 11.30).

I don't think I took in what she said about the actual weather.

I think we need a few articulate old presenters on TV if real forecasters
are too expensive.

Roger


Yes, I'm getting into a right old state about it as I head
through the afternoon period. I get all my BBC forecasts from Radio 4
and radio presentation is in some ways more difficult than TV,
something you would have thought the BBC would have recognised.
Laura Tobyn doesn't seem engaged with the subject, somehow, and
sounds a bit like a robot, or a dentist's receptionist (ooh, snobby
old git). Having said that, she is better than Tomas Schaffernacker
(spelling?) who still manages to waffle and confuse, despite the new
format. He sounds nervous and frankly a bit wet. Neither should be
doing this job - they are simply unsuitable. The best by far is Peter

Gibbs who sounds as if he is delivering information about something he
really knows about and wants us to understand.


We've not seen much of Desperate Dan Corbett recently.
Perhaps that's just as well.
I'm sure the good people of Cumbria didn't want to be told
that now might be a good time to dig the 'wet weather gear'
out of the wardrobe......
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Bolton, Lancashire
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On 26 Nov, 19:59, "Col" wrote:
"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message

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On Nov 26, 11:38 am, "Roger Smith" wrote:

Isn't she awful! We are in for a blustery old day today and a chilly old
start tomorrow (BBC News 24 at 11.30).


I don't think I took in what she said about the actual weather.


I think we need a few articulate old presenters on TV if real forecasters
are too expensive.


Roger
* * *Yes, I'm getting into a right old state about it as I head
through the afternoon period. *I get all my BBC forecasts from Radio 4
and radio presentation is in some ways more difficult than TV,
something you would have thought the BBC would have recognised.


* * *Laura Tobyn doesn't seem engaged with the subject, somehow, andsounds a bit like a robot, or a dentist's receptionist (ooh, snobby
old git). *Having said that, she is better than Tomas Schaffernacker
(spelling?) who still manages to waffle and confuse, despite the new
format. *He sounds nervous and frankly a bit wet. *Neither should be
doing this job - they are simply unsuitable. *The best by far is Peter


Gibbs who sounds as if he is delivering information about something he

really knows about and wants us to understand.


We've not seen much of Desperate Dan Corbett recently.
Perhaps that's just as well.
I'm sure the good people of Cumbria didn't want to be told
that now might be a good time to dig the 'wet weather gear'
out of the wardrobe......
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Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


The silly girlies on Sky are equally bad, unfortunately. We abandoned
the BBC Breakfast programme sometime ago in favour of Sky, which is
far from perfect, what with the inane ads, but it is nowhere near as
dumbed down as the Blue Peter equivalent on the BBC. As well as being
a bit daft, the ladies on Sky have to do a lot of walking about,
because their background map appears to be huge.

The French forecasts we get on France 2 are generally pretty good, but
often a bit rushed because everything's running late.

CK
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:52:46 -0800, Jack Frost wrote:

On 26 Nov, 13:30, "David Haggas" wrote:

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The banner headline which is meant to sum up the entire British Isles'
(South East England's) expected weather should be obliterated.


And so should the zooming around the UK part. I honestly don't see what
this adds to our knowledge of the weather.

snip

Hear hear. I can accept that sometimes it might be useful, but it seems
to be a cast-iron requirement to do the fly-around every single time, and
that's plain silly. They do go anti-clockwise sometimes, but that's as
different as it gets - and the Midlands is always on the edge of the
screen, often behind the forecaster's back! The Beeb need to stop
*requiring* the fly-around - just have it for when it might be useful.


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On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:31:21 -0800, Natsman wrote:

The silly girlies on Sky are equally bad, unfortunately. We abandoned
the BBC Breakfast programme sometime ago in favour of Sky, which is far
from perfect, what with the inane ads, but it is nowhere near as dumbed
down as the Blue Peter equivalent on the BBC. As well as being a bit
daft, the ladies on Sky have to do a lot of walking about, because their
background map appears to be huge.

snip

Sky's weather map is absolutely terrible, even worse than the BBC's, in
that it has far too little contrast. It's extremely hard to tell what's
rain and what's cloud, and even where the land/sea boundary might be. (In
days of yore, the BBC satellite picture would have the coastline picked
out: Sky would benefit from that.) I really only watch the Sky weather
for the comedy value when Francis Wilson's on: if you've never seen Rory
Bremner's takeoff of him, you've missed a treat. I'm sure it's on YouTube.


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On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 at 11:38:14, Roger Smith
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

Isn't she awful! We are in for a blustery old day today and a chilly old
start tomorrow (BBC News 24 at 11.30).

I don't think I took in what she said about the actual weather.


Well, she *is* cute enough to be very distracting...
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Paul Hyett wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 at 11:38:14, Roger Smith
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

Isn't she awful! We are in for a blustery old day today and a chilly old
start tomorrow (BBC News 24 at 11.30).

I don't think I took in what she said about the actual weather.


Well, she *is* cute enough to be very distracting...


I wish people give her a chance, she just at the beginning of appearing
on TV. People didn't moan about Ian Mccaskell's nervousness.

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