On Dec 2, 12:19*am, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:
"Alastair" wrote in message

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On Dec 1, 11:30 pm, Lawrence13 wrote:



On Dec 1, 10:29 pm, Alastair wrote:

On Dec 1, 10:13 pm, "Col" wrote:

Natsman wrote:
On 1 Dec, 22:13, Bonos Ego wrote:

revelations. Clearly it is all a conspiracy despite the views of
some
of those on this forum who denied that there could possibly be any
conspiracy in the AGW agenda. It was only a matter of time.

The sad thing is that the whole shebang is driven by money, and the
Bilderberg premise of global governance. Too many would have too
much
to lose if the bandwagon faltered now, so they'll press on
regardless,
steamrollering their way over those who question the science and
motives, brainwashing those who are susceptible, and ignoring those
who demur.

Bilderberg group?
I'm surprised you haven't mentioned The Illuminati and giant
lizards.....

It's potentially the biggest, most damaging scam mankind has
experienced thus far - more so than any changing climate scenario
could possibly be. Smoke and mirrors, lies and deceit, but certainly
not science. And we'll all be the sadder, and poorer for it.

What would be the *point* of such a conspiracy, to engineer a
reason for us all to pay more taxes?
You would have to persuade 10s of thousands of scientists all around
the world, along with their Governments to go along with this scam.
Why bother with such an elaborate scheme, even if it was possible to
impliment?
When politicians want to raise taxes they simply *lie* about it in
the time honoured fashion, they don't cook up schemes that take
20 years to come to fruition!
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Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

This is a tragedy! A senior scientist, who has been been fighting
against the ruthless campaign of disinformation financed by the US
oil, coal and automotive industries, and orchestrated by the the
extreme right wing politicians has been brought down for responding in
kind.

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Alastair people have a choice whether they want to buy oil or not
which is more then can be said for the BBC license fee and Labour
Party green taxes.

You may have the choice of buying oil, but do the poor farmers in
Bangladesh? Oil is now running out so your children and grandchildren
will certainly not have that choice, and the Bangladeshis, along with
everyone else too poor to buy their share of oil today, will never get
any.

The oil companies have no difficulty persuading the greedy people that
that global warming is not a threat, because that is what they want to
hear. *It not surprising that the scientists fudged the figures to get
the message across.

Cheers, Alastair.http://www.complexclimate.org

Alastiar: what do you mean by greedy people? At least you accept the figures
were "fudged" whatever you *mean by that?

I mean the current generation in the first world countries who within
about 100 years have burnt most of the world's store of oil. They have
lived a life of Riley without any thought about how the following
generations are going to cope without any oil.

Dawlish wrote:

Such rubbish written about this from the deniers. Phil Jones really is
a highly respected climate scientist. Fortunately there are thousands
more like him that feel exactly the same way about the likelihood of
CO2 driving GW and they have not all been subject to clearly illegal
activity.

While the deniers think they've stopped GW, by intercepting some
internal emails from some really frustrated scientists, it continues
merrily on. 10 out of the last 11 years the warmest on record. Every
month for the last 24 months being in the top 10 warmest for that
month, despite a La Nina, a solar minimum and a negative PDO for the
first year of those 24. Look at the outcomes and deny them.

Phil Jones is not the problem; rising global temperatures are the
problem.

No, the problem is that the rewriting of history, the denial of the MWP
makes current temperatures seem more significant than they realy are.
Current temperatures are not record-breaking, extreme, or dangerous,
they are mundane.


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