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Col wrote:
"Keith(Southend)" wrote in message ... http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/Rtavn1921.png Have a look at T+384. Christmas Day Arrmageddon for the SW ![]() Armageddon outahere. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy "I wear the cheese. It does not wear me." |
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On 10 Dec, 08:14, Graham P Davis wrote:
Col wrote: "Keith(Southend)" wrote in message ... http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/Rtavn1921.png Have a look at T+384. Christmas Day Arrmageddon for the SW ![]() Armageddon outahere. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. *E-mail: newsman not newsboy "I wear the cheese. It does not wear me." I am really getting twitchy as to it not being cold enough at low level for significant snowfall, it almost appears that the cold pool off Russia never really packs a punch in our direction. The 528DAM we seem to be on the wrong side of it with the low in the North Sea not helping. And then most of the run up to Christmas, although cold down south, not cold enough to me :-( Sorry to be a humbug, but I have a bad feeling about the whole thing! Keith (Southend) |
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On 10 Dec, 08:27, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote: On 10 Dec, 08:14, Graham P Davis wrote: Col wrote: "Keith(Southend)" wrote in message ... http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/Rtavn1921.png Have a look at T+384. Christmas Day Arrmageddon for the SW ![]() Armageddon outahere. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. *E-mail: newsman not newsboy "I wear the cheese. It does not wear me." I am really getting twitchy as to it not being cold enough at low level for significant snowfall, it almost appears that the cold pool off Russia never really packs a punch in our direction. The 528DAM we seem to be on the wrong side of it with the low in the North Sea not helping. And then most of the run up to Christmas, although cold down south, not cold enough to me :-( Sorry to be a humbug, but I have a bad feeling about the whole thing! Keith (Southend) eg.. http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/Rtavn2163.png http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/Rtavn2403.png Some hope for Tuesday and Wednesday next week: http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/Rtavn1203.png http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/Rtavn1443.png Keith (Southend) |
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On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:35:38 -0800 (PST), Keith (Southend)G wrote in
Sorry to be a humbug, but I have a bad feeling about the whole thing! Keith (Southend) eg.. http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/Rtavn2163.png http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/Rtavn2403.png In frontal situations like those, the 528 thickness is not particularly useful, as the cold air is confined much closer to the surface. -- Mike Tullett - Coleraine 55.13°N 6.69°W posted 10/12/2009 09:12:22 GMT |
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On 9 Dec, 22:46, "Colin Youngs" wrote:
"Keith(Southend)" schreef in ... :http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/Rtavn1921.png Keith, do you have any plans to post "Looking east, key cold indicators" like last December ?http://groups.google.be/group/uk.sci...ead/thread/37d... Colin Youngs Brussels Ah, just checked, I did add something on my spreadsheet which picked out those locations in the list, and it's still there, so it shouldn't cause my to much work. Update later tonight as we are wine testing at the gym, a good way to keep fit LOL ! Keith (Southend) |
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On Dec 9, 10:37*pm, "Keith(Southend)"
wrote: http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/Rtavn1921.png -- Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net You know Keith, OMG was exactly the words I uttered to my computer screen when I saw the 06z gfs (and OMG yet again, note, my laptop is getting used to this exclamation!). It is highly unlikely to pan out exactly like that but we have an overall pattern which has a high confidence (75%+) of producing wintry weather in 10 days and the model;s are in almost complete areement. OK, the 00z ECM shows something a little different, but that's likely to be an outlier. Compared to the charts of the last few years, this really is OMG territory - and if I'm saying that, after my long record of decrying the idiots who shout "snowfest" at every cold chart at T240+ on the gfs, then I reckon it is more likely to happen than not. PS Wine tasting in a gym. Nice idea! *)) |
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On 10 Dec, 09:54, Dawlish wrote:
On Dec 9, 10:37*pm, "Keith(Southend)" wrote: http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/Rtavn1921.png -- Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net You know Keith, OMG was exactly the words I uttered to my computer screen when I saw the 06z gfs (and OMG yet again, note, my laptop is getting used to this exclamation!). It is highly unlikely to pan out exactly like that but we have an overall pattern which has a high confidence (75%+) of producing wintry weather in 10 days and the model;s are in almost complete areement. OK, the 00z ECM shows something a little different, but that's likely to be an outlier. Compared to the charts of the last few years, this really is OMG territory - and if I'm saying that, after my long record of decrying the idiots who shout "snowfest" at every cold chart at T240+ on the gfs, then I reckon it is more likely to happen than not. PS Wine tasting in a gym. Nice idea! *)) I'm sure things will look a lot rosier later :-) Hic ! Keith (Southend) |
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On Dec 10, 9:54*am, Dawlish wrote:
On Dec 9, 10:37*pm, "Keith(Southend)" wrote: http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/Rtavn1921.png -- Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net You know Keith, OMG was exactly the words I uttered to my computer screen when I saw the 06z gfs (and OMG yet again, note, my laptop is getting used to this exclamation!). It is highly unlikely to pan out exactly like that but we have an overall pattern which has a high confidence (75%+) of producing wintry weather in 10 days and the model;s are in almost complete areement. **OK, the 00z ECM shows something a little different, but that's likely to be an outlier.** Compared to the charts of the last few years, this really is OMG territory - and if I'm saying that, after my long record of decrying the idiots who shout "snowfest" at every cold chart at T240+ on the gfs, then I reckon it is more likely to happen than not. PS Wine tasting in a gym. Nice idea! *)) http://www.knmi.nl/exp/pluim/vijftiendaagse/index.html As I thought, the EMS ensemble mean shows colder than what was indicated by the 00z chart. The cold pattern is very well set to at last 10 days and probably further, though it looks as if it *may* turn drier over the Christmas period. (Very low confidence in that, mind, but if it was to turn drier, many areas would have snow-covered Christmas, as there would be little thawing with the low temperatures over the snowfields). ........Did I really write that? Strange times indeed! |
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On Dec 9, 11:01*pm, Mike Tullett wrote:
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:47:50 -0000, Jon O'Rourke wrote in Topped only by the GFS fantasy end of the world scenario a week later. Saved here for posterity http://www.metbrief.com/Images/endoworld.png Pity William Hill don't take weather bets at night as I'm sure the odds will be even lower tomorrow. *Many places were 6-1 today, down two points from yesterday. -- Mike Tullett - Coleraine 55.13°N 6.69°W *posted 09/12/2009 23:01:47 *GMT Methinks you are thinking of betting in the pre-Internet age. William Hill are online now you know and take bets 24/7! 9/2 at William Hill this morning, best price on Oddschecker is 11/2 with Skybet, for snow in London. No change from yesterday evening. |
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On Dec 10, 10:04*am, Dawlish wrote:
http://www.knmi.nl/exp/pluim/vijftiendaagse/index.html Useful link, that (for an impending easterly) - I wonder if the EC know that their EPS output is on there...! Richard |
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