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Silly me, I even have a link on my website :-)
http://www.mtullett.plus.com/1962-63/


LOL and I sent you all the charts back in 2000/2001 for 62-63.

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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:07:02 +0000, Keith(Southend) wrote in


Silly me, I even have a link on my website :-)
http://www.mtullett.plus.com/1962-63/


LOL and I sent you all the charts back in 2000/2001 for 62-63.


You're right Mike, just found the folder on the other disc "62_63" with
all the files. One of those senior moments I guess :-)

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Your comments have jogged my memory, Mike, as I remember that by the
20th,21st Dec in 1962,
maxima were at or below -20c over much of northern and central Europe
east
of 20degreesE longitude.
It will be interesting to see whether this figure can be achieved this
time.


Peter - this is what my diary says for the 21st.

Maxima: Moscow -20C, Warsaw -15C, Belgrade -3C, Berlin -5C, Cologne 4C,
Paris 8C, Brussels 6C, Bordeaux 8C, Madrid 7C, Nimes 6C and Venice 0C.
Coastal Norway was 2C in the S and -2C in the N. Oslo -3C, Stockholm -4C,
Helsinki -16C, Murmansk -16C and inland areas of the N were -16 to -22C.
Iceland was 1 to -3C.


Thanks Mike; obviously my memory has failed me- spare my blushes!Although,
to be fair, only Moscow, Warsaw
and Helsinki were east of 20 degrees east.

Peter Clarke




Currently +0.5 C here in Coleraine and had to de-ice daughter's car at
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Your comments have jogged my memory, Mike, as I remember that by the
20th,21st Dec in 1962,
maxima were at or below -20c over much of northern and central Europe
east
of 20degreesE longitude.
It will be interesting to see whether this figure can be achieved this
time.


Peter - this is what my diary says for the 21st.

Maxima: Moscow -20C, Warsaw -15C, Belgrade -3C, Berlin -5C, Cologne 4C,
Paris 8C, Brussels 6C, Bordeaux 8C, Madrid 7C, Nimes 6C and Venice 0C.
Coastal Norway was 2C in the S and -2C in the N. Oslo -3C,
Stockholm -4C,
Helsinki -16C, Murmansk -16C and inland areas of the N were -16 to -22C.
Iceland was 1 to -3C.


Thanks Mike; obviously my memory has failed me- spare my blushes!Although,
to be fair, only Moscow, Warsaw
and Helsinki were east of 20 degrees east.

Peter Clarke



I forgot to add:-
What were the temperatures on 23 December, Mike? By this time the freezing
weather had reached England.

Peter Clarke


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Maxima: Moscow -20C, Warsaw -15C, Belgrade -3C, Berlin -5C, Cologne 4C,
Paris 8C, Brussels 6C, Bordeaux 8C, Madrid 7C, Nimes 6C and Venice 0C.
Coastal Norway was 2C in the S and -2C in the N. Oslo -3C, Stockholm -4C,
Helsinki -16C, Murmansk -16C and inland areas of the N were -16 to -22C.
Iceland was 1 to -3C.


Thanks Mike; obviously my memory has failed me- spare my blushes!Although,
to be fair, only Moscow, Warsaw
and Helsinki were east of 20 degrees east.


I thought your memory was indeed very good and what you posted accurate, as
*I* had to check my charts and diary to find the figures:-) It was around
then that the really cold air was pushing westwards, with a cold front
lying from S Norway through S.Scotland, Wales and Cornwall to eastern
Spain.

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I forgot to add:-
What were the temperatures on 23 December, Mike? By this time the freezing
weather had reached England.


Again my diary shows;

Maxima: Oslo -12C, Stockholm -1C, Helsinki -1C, Moscow -8C,
Warsaw -6C, Belgrade -8C, Sofia -7C, Zagreb -7C, Berlin -7C, Munich -14C,
Prague -10C, Paris -5C, Brussels -6C, Bordeaux -7C, Madrid 1C, Nimes -5C,
Brest 2C. Coastal Norway was 6 to 7C. Tromso 6C. Iceland -2 to 3C

In the UK as follows:

Maxima: Gatwick 1C, Cardiff 0C, Birmingham -1C, Watnall -1C, Newcastle 1C,
Manchester 0C, Glasgow 1C, Leuchars 0C, Tiree 6C, Lerwick 8C, Belfast 2C
and Valentia 4C.


Warm air was flooding up into west Scandinavia and thence into NE Europe.

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In the UK as follows:

Maxima: Gatwick 1C, Cardiff 0C, Birmingham -1C, Watnall -1C, Newcastle 1C,
Manchester 0C, Glasgow 1C, Leuchars 0C, Tiree 6C, Lerwick 8C, Belfast 2C
and Valentia 4C.


Oooops but am sure JCW will forgive me. Would have been correct up to
1921:-)

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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:52:28 -0000, peter clarke wrote in


I forgot to add:-
What were the temperatures on 23 December, Mike? By this time the
freezing
weather had reached England.


Again my diary shows;

Maxima: Oslo -12C, Stockholm -1C, Helsinki -1C, Moscow -8C,
Warsaw -6C, Belgrade -8C, Sofia -7C, Zagreb -7C, Berlin -7C, Munich -14C,
Prague -10C, Paris -5C, Brussels -6C, Bordeaux -7C, Madrid 1C, Nimes -5C,
Brest 2C. Coastal Norway was 6 to 7C. Tromso 6C. Iceland -2 to 3C

In the UK as follows:

Maxima: Gatwick 1C, Cardiff 0C, Birmingham -1C, Watnall -1C, Newcastle 1C,
Manchester 0C, Glasgow 1C, Leuchars 0C, Tiree 6C, Lerwick 8C, Belfast 2C
and Valentia 4C.


Warm air was flooding up into west Scandinavia and thence into NE Europe.

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Thanks Mike; interesting figures..
Peter

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In the UK as follows:

Maxima: Gatwick 1C, Cardiff 0C, Birmingham -1C, Watnall -1C, Newcastle
1C,
Manchester 0C, Glasgow 1C, Leuchars 0C, Tiree 6C, Lerwick 8C, Belfast 2C
and Valentia 4C.


Oooops but am sure JCW will forgive me. Would have been correct up to
1921:-)

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