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BLUE MOON ECLIPSE: On Dec. 31st, the Blue Moon will dip into Earth's
shadow for a partial lunar eclipse. The event is visible from Europe,
Africa and Asia: map. At maximum eclipse, around 19:24 Universal Time,
approximately 8% of the Moon will be darkly shadowed. Click on the
image to launch an animated preview:

Blue Moons are rare (once every ~2.5 years). Blue Moons on New Year's
Eve are rarer still (once every ~19 years). How rare is a lunar
eclipse of a Blue Moon on New Year's Eve?

http://www.spaceweather.com/

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On 2009-12-30, Bonos Ego wrote:
BLUE MOON ECLIPSE: On Dec. 31st, the Blue Moon will dip into Earth's
shadow for a partial lunar eclipse. The event is visible from Europe,
Africa and Asia: map. At maximum eclipse, around 19:24 Universal Time,
approximately 8% of the Moon will be darkly shadowed. Click on the
image to launch an animated preview:

Blue Moons are rare (once every ~2.5 years). Blue Moons on New Year's
Eve are rarer still (once every ~19 years). How rare is a lunar
eclipse of a Blue Moon on New Year's Eve?

http://www.spaceweather.com/


Is this the "2nd Full Moon in a month" definition? If so, there's an
argument in favour of it being wrong:

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/objects/moon/3304131.html

According to the older meaning, a Blue Moon is the 3rd Full Moon in a season
that has 4.

The more recent definition is a wee bit easier to get your head around, mind
:-)

Jim
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I understand http://www.spaceweather.com/ to be referring to it as a
Blue Moon because of its colour caused by the Partial Eclipse, rather
than the saying 'Once in a Blue Moon', which has different meanings as
you mention above.
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On 2009-12-30, Bonos Ego wrote:
BLUE MOON ECLIPSE: On Dec. 31st, the Blue Moon will dip into Earth's
shadow for a partial lunar eclipse. The event is visible from Europe,
Africa and Asia: map. At maximum eclipse, around 19:24 Universal Time,
approximately 8% of the Moon will be darkly shadowed. Click on the
image to launch an animated preview:

Blue Moons are rare (once every ~2.5 years). Blue Moons on New Year's
Eve are rarer still (once every ~19 years). How rare is a lunar
eclipse of a Blue Moon on New Year's Eve?

http://www.spaceweather.com/


Is this the "2nd Full Moon in a month" definition? If so, there's an
argument in favour of it being wrong:

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/objects/moon/3304131.html

According to the older meaning, a Blue Moon is the 3rd Full Moon in a
season
that has 4.

The more recent definition is a wee bit easier to get your head around,
mind
:-)

Jim
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and a shirt the colour of blood." Malcolm Tucker, "The Thick of It"


The definition of a blue moon is of US origin, rather like Fathers Day. I
suppose no harm can come from the concept if it makes people think a bit
about the moon's phases and the intervals between them.

I have one quibble about the supposed rarity of a full moon on 31st
December - on average a full moon will occur on any specific date
approximately once every 29.5 years, and 31st December is no exception. Of
course, a full moon on 31st December will always be preceded by a full moon
on 1st or 2nd December.

Weather prospects for viewing the eclipse are not too promising, at least in
the south of the country.

Roger


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On 2009-12-30, Bonos Ego wrote:
I understand http://www.spaceweather.com/ to be referring to it as a
Blue Moon because of its colour caused by the Partial Eclipse, rather
than the saying 'Once in a Blue Moon', which has different meanings as
you mention above.


Reading the article (both the SpaceWeather one and the linked NASA article)
neither say that the Moon's *colour* will be blue. In fact the NASA article
goes to some lengths to point out that it won't:

-----
"I remember the last time this happened," says professor Philip Hiscock of
the Dept. of Folklore at the Memorial University of Newfoundland. "December
1990 ended with a Blue Moon, and many New Year's Eve parties were themed by
the event. It was a lot of fun."

Don't expect the Moon to actually turn blue, though. "The 'Blue Moon' is a
creature of folklore," he explains. "It's the second full Moon in a calendar
month."
-----

although they then go on to explain that this definition is fairly new.

Thanks for the pointer though - I didn't know about the eclipse.

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Bonos Ego wrote
I understand http://www.spaceweather.com/ to be referring to it as a
Blue Moon because of its colour caused by the Partial Eclipse, rather
than the saying 'Once in a Blue Moon', which has different meanings as
you mention above.


Except that the colour of the eclipsed moon is more often a rather lurid
red, isn't it? I always think of Wozzeck saying der Mond ist blutig.
But that's just me. YMMV.....

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On 2009-12-30, Kate Brown wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Bonos Ego wrote
I understand http://www.spaceweather.com/ to be referring to it as a
Blue Moon because of its colour caused by the Partial Eclipse, rather
than the saying 'Once in a Blue Moon', which has different meanings as
you mention above.


Except that the colour of the eclipsed moon is more often a rather lurid
red, isn't it? I always think of Wozzeck saying der Mond ist blutig.
But that's just me. YMMV.....


A Moon that's in a total eclipse is often very red, yes. Partials don't
change colour though. Well, not much anyway.

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Skies are now clearing in South Devon, and the Partial Eclipse of the
Moon is now clearly visible, with the bottom right hand corner of the
moon turning a Blueish-grey.

Maximum Eclipse is 19:24 UTC (GMT)


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