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Am I being over optimistic or am I missing something. There are a few
people posting a big change to the forecast over the coming 5 days. I still see potential for snow over the coming days and beyond especially down the eastern side of the country. My lack of indepth knowledge may be letting me down here. Maybe Will or Dawlish could enlighten me. Mark Southend |
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![]() "Mark Chamberlain (Southend)" wrote in message ... Am I being over optimistic or am I missing something. There are a few people posting a big change to the forecast over the coming 5 days. I still see potential for snow over the coming days and beyond especially down the eastern side of the country. My lack of indepth knowledge may be letting me down here. Maybe Will or Dawlish could enlighten me. Mark Southend Will and Dawlish? Big Time Paul Big time. |
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![]() "Mark Chamberlain (Southend)" wrote in message ... Am I being over optimistic or am I missing something. There are a few people posting a big change to the forecast over the coming 5 days. I still see potential for snow over the coming days and beyond especially down the eastern side of the country. My lack of indepth knowledge may be letting me down here. Maybe Will or Dawlish could enlighten me. Mark Southend -------------------- Hi Mark - see Jon's reply to my post above which explains the change for today and tomorrow. I wouldn't think anyone is pessimistic now having had snow. The 5cm here may not be much but it's enough to make everywhere covered and pretty and enough for the kids activities. Dave |
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![]() "Dave Cornwell" wrote in message ... "Mark Chamberlain (Southend)" wrote in message ... Am I being over optimistic or am I missing something. There are a few people posting a big change to the forecast over the coming 5 days. I still see potential for snow over the coming days and beyond especially down the eastern side of the country. My lack of indepth knowledge may be letting me down here. Maybe Will or Dawlish could enlighten me. Mark Southend -------------------- Hi Mark - see Jon's reply to my post above which explains the change for today and tomorrow. I wouldn't think anyone is pessimistic now having had snow. The 5cm here may not be much but it's enough to make everywhere covered and pretty and enough for the kids activities. Dave Dave regardless shouldn't these said presenters. forecasters at least have the decency to start off from where the last forecast ended and then explain as Jon did. |
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Lawrence Jenkins writes: "Dave Cornwell" wrote in message ... "Mark Chamberlain (Southend)" wrote in message ... Am I being over optimistic or am I missing something. There are a few people posting a big change to the forecast over the coming 5 days. I still see potential for snow over the coming days and beyond especially down the eastern side of the country. My lack of indepth knowledge may be letting me down here. Maybe Will or Dawlish could enlighten me. Mark Southend -------------------- Hi Mark - see Jon's reply to my post above which explains the change for today and tomorrow. I wouldn't think anyone is pessimistic now having had snow. The 5cm here may not be much but it's enough to make everywhere covered and pretty and enough for the kids activities. Dave Dave regardless shouldn't these said presenters. forecasters at least have the decency to start off from where the last forecast ended and then explain as Jon did. I don't think that they're given enough time for that, especially as it seems to be compulsory to waste part of that time by zooming in on every part of the UK even when there isn't much in the way of regional variation. In any case, the change seems to be no more than a difference in emphasis on how widespread the snow showers are expected to be over the next couple of days. -- John Hall "Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people from coughing." Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83) |
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 18:02:21 -0000, "Dave Cornwell"
wrote: "Mark Chamberlain (Southend)" wrote in message .. . Am I being over optimistic or am I missing something. There are a few people posting a big change to the forecast over the coming 5 days. I still see potential for snow over the coming days and beyond especially down the eastern side of the country. My lack of indepth knowledge may be letting me down here. Maybe Will or Dawlish could enlighten me. Mark Southend -------------------- Hi Mark - see Jon's reply to my post above which explains the change for today and tomorrow. I wouldn't think anyone is pessimistic now having had snow. The 5cm here may not be much but it's enough to make everywhere covered and pretty and enough for the kids activities. Dave Thanks. That explains it clearly enough. Mark Southend |
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On Jan 7, 5:44*pm, "Mark Chamberlain (Southend)"
wrote: Am I being over optimistic or am I missing something. There are a few people posting a big change to the forecast over the coming 5 days. I still see potential for snow over the coming days and beyond especially down the eastern side of the country. My lack of indepth knowledge may be letting me down here. Maybe Will or Dawlish could enlighten me. Mark Southend Hi Mark. I wouldn't claim that I'm an "optimist" in this respect! This was my 10-day forecast from Jan 1st, for Jan 11th.: "**On Monday 11th January, at T240, temperatures across the bulk of the UK will be below average. The airflow over the UK will have an easterly, or a northerly component, depending on whether high pressure is located to the north, or most probably, the north-west of the UK and any disturbances in this cold airflow will produce wintry showers, mainly of snow and perhaps extended periods of snow in lowland areas of the UK. Due to the coming cold over the next 10 days, snow will have been lying in some lowland areas for over a week and night frosts will be intense in many areas, especially over snowfields**". I don't see any reason to change it, unfortunately. I rather wish it would result in a poor forecast, but I don't think that will be the case. Sunday has the potential to be horrendous in the south. Since then, despite several close calls, I haven't seen either the consistency, or the agreement to forecast again at 10 days since I posted that forecast, 6 days ago. ATM, the ECM shows very cold to 10 days and the gfs doesn't show the same. I favour the ECM, but I haven't got the confidence to be 75% certain of forecast that! Is that calming the pessimists? 8)) |
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:47:26 -0800 (PST), Dawlish
wrote: On Jan 7, 5:44*pm, "Mark Chamberlain (Southend)" wrote: Am I being over optimistic or am I missing something. There are a few people posting a big change to the forecast over the coming 5 days. I still see potential for snow over the coming days and beyond especially down the eastern side of the country. My lack of indepth knowledge may be letting me down here. Maybe Will or Dawlish could enlighten me. Mark Southend Hi Mark. I wouldn't claim that I'm an "optimist" in this respect! This was my 10-day forecast from Jan 1st, for Jan 11th.: "**On Monday 11th January, at T240, temperatures across the bulk of the UK will be below average. The airflow over the UK will have an easterly, or a northerly component, depending on whether high pressure is located to the north, or most probably, the north-west of the UK and any disturbances in this cold airflow will produce wintry showers, mainly of snow and perhaps extended periods of snow in lowland areas of the UK. Due to the coming cold over the next 10 days, snow will have been lying in some lowland areas for over a week and night frosts will be intense in many areas, especially over snowfields**". I don't see any reason to change it, unfortunately. I rather wish it would result in a poor forecast, but I don't think that will be the case. Sunday has the potential to be horrendous in the south. Since then, despite several close calls, I haven't seen either the consistency, or the agreement to forecast again at 10 days since I posted that forecast, 6 days ago. ATM, the ECM shows very cold to 10 days and the gfs doesn't show the same. I favour the ECM, but I haven't got the confidence to be 75% certain of forecast that! Is that calming the pessimists? 8)) LOL. Thanks for the explanation. Heres to a winter that has and will keep us all talking for a long time to come. Mark Southend |
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"Mark Chamberlain (Southend)" wrote in message
... Am I being over optimistic or am I missing something. There are a few people posting a big change to the forecast over the coming 5 days. I still see potential for snow over the coming days and beyond especially down the eastern side of the country. My lack of indepth knowledge may be letting me down here. Maybe Will or Dawlish could enlighten me. Mark Southend Pessimism normally means expecting the worst so I would say you are not optimistic at all :-) We are using judgmental terms such as are often complained of regarding TV weather presenters. Tom Tom |
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On Jan 7, 8:32*pm, "Tom Allen" wrote:
"Mark Chamberlain (Southend)" wrote in messagenews:it6ck5h9eeo36ronhefos7s8qurvfckfm8@4ax .com... Am I being over optimistic or am I missing something. There are a few people posting a big change to the forecast over the coming 5 days. I still see potential for snow over the coming days and beyond especially down the eastern side of the country. My lack of indepth knowledge may be letting me down here. Maybe Will or Dawlish could enlighten me. Mark Southend Pessimism normally means expecting the worst so I would say you are not optimistic at all :-) We are using judgmental terms such as are often complained of regarding TV weather presenters. Tom Tom Too true. :-) |
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