After the satellite measures, UAH and RSS, both at 4th warmest in
their 30-year sequence, the first of the land-based measures is out.
NOAA has December as the 8th warmest December in its 130 year record.
What prevented it being warmer still was the Northern Hemisphere's
unusual cold. The outcome anomaly figure of +0.49C makes December the
coldest December since....2008!

"The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for
December 2009 was 0.49°C (0.88°F) above the 20th century average of
12.2°C (54.0°F). This is the eighth warmest December on
record." (NOAA).

On Jan 15, 6:17*pm, Dawlish wrote:
After the satellite measures, UAH and RSS, both at 4th warmest in
their 30-year sequence, the first of the land-based measures is out.
NOAA has December as the 8th warmest December in its 130 year record.
What prevented it being warmer still was the Northern Hemisphere's
unusual cold. The outcome anomaly figure of +0.49C makes December the
coldest December since....2008!

"The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for
December 2009 was 0.49°C (0.88°F) above the 20th century average of
12.2°C (54.0°F). This is the eighth warmest December on
record." (NOAA).

NOAA also has the year, Jan-Dec, as the 5th warmest on record.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?repor...d=Get+Re port

On Jan 15, 6:23*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Jan 15, 6:17*pm, Dawlish wrote:

After the satellite measures, UAH and RSS, both at 4th warmest in
their 30-year sequence, the first of the land-based measures is out.
NOAA has December as the 8th warmest December in its 130 year record.
What prevented it being warmer still was the Northern Hemisphere's
unusual cold. The outcome anomaly figure of +0.49C makes December the
coldest December since....2008!

"The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for
December 2009 was 0.49°C (0.88°F) above the 20th century average of
12.2°C (54.0°F). This is the eighth warmest December on
record." (NOAA).

NOAA also has the year, Jan-Dec, as the 5th warmest on record.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?repor...month=12&submi...

Just noticed: in case anyone wonders how I appear to have acquired
prescience in constructing the thread title, it should, of course,
read: "2009" climate!

Joe Public will have a hard time believing it was "warm"..........

On Jan 15, 6:34*pm, MahFL wrote:
Joe Public will have a hard time believing it was "warm"..........

Now you're talking about Joe public in the UK aren't you? *))

"Dawlish" wrote in message
...
On Jan 15, 6:17 pm, Dawlish wrote:
After the satellite measures, UAH and RSS, both at 4th warmest in
their 30-year sequence, the first of the land-based measures is out.
NOAA has December as the 8th warmest December in its 130 year record.
What prevented it being warmer still was the Northern Hemisphere's
unusual cold. The outcome anomaly figure of +0.49C makes December the
coldest December since....2008!

"The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for
December 2009 was 0.49°C (0.88°F) above the 20th century average of
12.2°C (54.0°F). This is the eighth warmest December on
record." (NOAA).

NOAA also has the year, Jan-Dec, as the 5th warmest on record.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?repor...d=Get+Re port


Do you mean this NOAA

http://www.accuweather.com/video-on-...%20Concern?the one that Joe accuses of rewriting past temperature records ?

On Jan 15, 6:56*pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message

...
On Jan 15, 6:17 pm, Dawlish wrote:

After the satellite measures, UAH and RSS, both at 4th warmest in
their 30-year sequence, the first of the land-based measures is out.
NOAA has December as the 8th warmest December in its 130 year record.
What prevented it being warmer still was the Northern Hemisphere's
unusual cold. The outcome anomaly figure of +0.49C makes December the
coldest December since....2008!

"The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for
December 2009 was 0.49°C (0.88°F) above the 20th century average of
12.2°C (54.0°F). This is the eighth warmest December on
record." (NOAA).

NOAA also has the year, Jan-Dec, as the 5th warmest on record.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?repor...month=12&submi...

Do you mean this NOAA

*http://www.accuweather.com/video-on-...001&chan...one that Joe accuses of rewriting past temperature records ?

I do mean that NOAA and unfounded accusations from such a source are
hardly going to pass muster when the NOAA record shows good agreement
with the two other land based records and the two satellite records.
All that does is show Joe *******i up. Unless of course you'd like to
say they are all wrong, in which case you are in conspiratorial la la
land.

Some people might have heard that while we (USA, UK and other places )
were cold recently, other places were warmer, then the overall temp
proberbly was above average.

On Jan 15, 7:18*pm, MahFL wrote:
Some people might have heard that while we (USA, UK and other places )
were cold recently, other places were warmer, then the overall temp
proberbly was above average.

Yes. 0.49C above average worldwide, according to NOAA.

"Dawlish" wrote in message
...
On Jan 15, 6:56 pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message

...
On Jan 15, 6:17 pm, Dawlish wrote:

After the satellite measures, UAH and RSS, both at 4th warmest in
their 30-year sequence, the first of the land-based measures is out.
NOAA has December as the 8th warmest December in its 130 year record.
What prevented it being warmer still was the Northern Hemisphere's
unusual cold. The outcome anomaly figure of +0.49C makes December the
coldest December since....2008!

"The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for
December 2009 was 0.49°C (0.88°F) above the 20th century average of
12.2°C (54.0°F). This is the eighth warmest December on
record." (NOAA).

NOAA also has the year, Jan-Dec, as the 5th warmest on record.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?repor...month=12&submi...

Do you mean this NOAA

http://www.accuweather.com/video-on-...001&chan...one
that Joe accuses of rewriting past temperature records ?

I do mean that NOAA and unfounded accusations from such a source are
hardly going to pass muster when the NOAA record shows good agreement
with the two other land based records and the two satellite records.
All that does is show Joe *******i up. Unless of course you'd like to
say they are all wrong, in which case you are in conspiratorial la la
land.

On the contrary he had to go to an obscure Australian site to get the facts