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On Feb 3, 12:51*pm, "Les Hemmings" wrote:
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1683: The Great Frost from the diary of Evelyn -


Notice the evidence of what was called then "Ye Suckers Gappe"?

"5th Feb: It began to thaw, but froze againe. "


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Have a read of this from; http://thames.me.uk/s00051.htm


An extremely impressive resource. Someone has put a lot of
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Alan LeHun wrote:
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Have a read of this from; http://thames.me.uk/s00051.htm


An extremely impressive resource. Someone has put a lot of
effort into that!


Yep.. am still finding some wonderful stuff there!

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Have a read of this from; http://thames.me.uk/s00051.htm


An extremely impressive resource. Someone has put a lot of
effort into that!



This list of links, books, publications, online material is excellent!

http://thames.me.uk/rlinks.htm


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On Feb 3, 4:21*pm, "Les Hemmings" wrote:
Alan LeHun wrote:
In article , says...


Have a read of this from;http://thames.me.uk/s00051.htm


An extremely impressive resource. Someone has put a lot of
effort into that!


This list of links, books, publications, online material is excellent!

http://thames.me.uk/rlinks.htm


Goodness me Les. I've just spent a happy 15 minutes scrolling through
- and only scratched the surface. What detail!


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Dawlish wrote:
This list of links, books, publications, online material is
excellent!

http://thames.me.uk/rlinks.htm


Goodness me Les. I've just spent a happy 15 minutes scrolling through
- and only scratched the surface. What detail!



I know! Rather a splendid discovery ) All thanks to a quick "Frost fair"
google... )



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Dawlish wrote:
On Feb 3, 4:21 pm, "Les Hemmings" wrote:

http://thames.me.uk/rlinks.htm


Goodness me Les. I've just spent a happy 15 minutes scrolling through
- and only scratched the surface. What detail!


A bit OT but you might like this... just found it after branching out from
the links above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwahIQz0o-M


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Les Hemmings writes:
Maunder minimum & Little Ice Age spring to mind! Was kinda hoping, what with
the very quet sun and all, that when the cold spell we just had hit that
we'd be having ice fairs on the Thames again!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:20...Comparison.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sunspot_Numbers.png

Les



No chance of frost fairs on the Thames in London, I'm afraid. The
demolition of the old London Bridge, which had very narrow arches which
obstructed the flow, and the embankment of the river have done for them.
1962-3, the third coldest winter in the CET record, showed that it's
pretty much out of the question.
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John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)
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John Hall wrote:

No chance of frost fairs on the Thames in London, I'm afraid. The
demolition of the old London Bridge, which had very narrow arches
which obstructed the flow, and the embankment of the river have done
for them. 1962-3, the third coldest winter in the CET record, showed
that it's pretty much out of the question.


Couldn't decent size plates of ice from up stream, and burgy bits in the
mix, slow the flow enough? I mean solid waste only moves ten miles
downstream a month given the tidal flow and all? Ramsgate sea even froze in
'63!



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In article ,
Les Hemmings writes:
John Hall wrote:

No chance of frost fairs on the Thames in London, I'm afraid. The
demolition of the old London Bridge, which had very narrow arches
which obstructed the flow, and the embankment of the river have done
for them. 1962-3, the third coldest winter in the CET record, showed
that it's pretty much out of the question.


Couldn't decent size plates of ice from up stream, and burgy bits in the
mix, slow the flow enough?


Apparently not. But with Old London Bridge, ice floes used to wedge in
the bits between the piers and fuse together. Then presumable further
floes caught up on that, until eventually solid ice had spread back
upstream. Also before the river was embanked, it flowed much more
slowly, both on the incoming and the ebb tide.

I mean solid waste only moves ten miles
downstream a month given the tidal flow and all? Ramsgate sea even froze in
'63!



But the Thames in London didn't, apparently. (Though I believe all the
non-tidal stretch, ie above Teddington weir, was frozen solid.)
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"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)


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