On 24 Feb, 07:30, "Will Hand" wrote:
"Phil Layton" wrote in message

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Col wrote:
"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
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Never underestimate the capacity for masochism of the snow ballers. When
this current appalling, and seemingly interminable, winter ends they'll
still be moaning that it didn't match '47 or '63 and hoping for a final
April freeze up.

I don't think even the most hard-line snow lover would want
a snowy Easter!

Yes, this winter is dragging and I'd like to see some spring soon.
I certainly wouldn't want the cold to drag on beyond mid-March.

There has not been much snow down in SE England. None has settled during
February here, and I'm kinda forgetting what January was like... I wouldnt
mind a snowy Easter!

Phil

Ah a snowy Easter - dream on!

Snow - still love it!
Best winter for years on Dartmoor and still a whole month to go.

Weatherlore has it that severe winters provide good autumnal harvests.
That is the main thrust for weather forecasting. Spread the word.
maybe someone can actually do something useful with the stuff we love.

Not that the combined forces of the Co-Op, Asda and Tesco et-al will
allow the farmers to profit.

*******s!

I'd always been suspicious of those Fair Trades goods. They are always
much more expensive than reality and by the nature of the scam,
uncheckable.

Who's going to do the checking? The BBC?

On Feb 24, 9:27*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On 24 Feb, 04:54, "jbm" wrote:

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message

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When the High over Greenland moves away or disappears. Have you not
been paying me any attention at all?

And when, pray, will that be? Sometime this year, maybe?

I have not tried to link my recent endeavours to the times of the
phase of the moon. But it does seem that some more research along the
lines I have been following will help.

The fact is that the times of the phases this year are very difficult
for me to command. The same was true of last year.

When the minutes in the times divide the hour by three (times such as
those at 20 past or to the hour) the chances of getting a clear hit on
intense lows of inflated highs is slim (for me, at the moment.)

(What is the term for high highs by the way. "Building" is for waxing
anticyclones where "deepening" is for Lows but what is the fatty
accompliance? Extensive? Can't be.)

When the time is around the 2nd, 4th, 8th or 10th ~hour, that too
means flaccid spells in the North Atlantic. I have yet to look at the
co-incidents for Greenland Highs of any nature or maturity.

There is nothing to stop anyone else (apart from Dawlish) from looking
at it themselves.

Leeds Uni has an extensive archive of charts for 2007 and 8 if anyone
wishes to take a load:http://homepages.see.leeds.ac.uk/~lecimb/met/metoffice/

The Canucks also house a good archive (of the Northern hemisphere no
less) no link for that at the moment though.

The USA has stupendous resources (for the USA only of course) but
since a huge amount of our weather comes from there it is still
useful.

Going a little away from the topic of course. But just in case there
really are any bods on here that are interested in getting an
education not strangled at birth by reliance on constupiders.

No apologies for the near rant but really!

Thank you for metioning me and no-one else. The reason for that is
that this particular piece of monitoring gets under your skin.

*14% success over 8 forecasts over a 4 month period in 2009*.

No matter how much you'd like someone, anyone, to believe you, your
ideas simply don't work. The only way to judge any forecaster is by
outcome success over time. Your forecasting success, quite simply, is
no good.

Now be a good W; change Jim's thread title back to what it was and go
and sit on the naughty step for changing it in the first place.

In article
,
Weatherlawyer writes:
snip
(What is the term for high highs by the way. "Building" is for waxing
anticyclones where "deepening" is for Lows but what is the fatty
accompliance? Extensive? Can't be.)

"Intense"
--
John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

"Len Wood" wrote in message
...

It's pretty obvious as Spring arrives the weather will warm.

Len
in tropical Wembury
................
Unfortunately, Len, this does not look likely to happen this coming Monday,
at least here.

Roger
in sopping Farnborough

On 24 Feb, 09:59, John Hall wrote:
In article
,*Weathe rlawyer writes:

snip

(What is the term for high highs by the way. "Building" is for waxing
anticyclones where "deepening" is for Lows but what is the fatty
accompliance? Extensive? Can't be.)

"Intense"

Intensifying.

Ta.

I haven't looked ata forecast chart fro some time.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/..._pressure.html seems
to be the best one at the moment. T 84 at the time of writing has a
Low moving over Portugal (from Madeira?)
intenserrruuummm ....deepening.

Actual criticality is 970 mb when a flaccid system is operating. Not
that I know what to do with it. A Trafalgar Low (as was) used to be as
good as an Hebridean for good weather on the N Wales coast.

I don't know what operates these days of Glowballs and FitzRoy sea
areas.

I can remember when I were a lad...

just.

The Greenland High seems secure. More than can be said for Haiti slum
dwellers. They have just spent more than their gross national product
on Chinese tents -in time, one hopes, for a campfest in the rainy
season.

I wonder what the US militia are doing for housing there? I do hope
all those guns don't go rusty.

On Feb 24, 10:14*am, "Roger Smith" wrote:
"Len Wood" wrote in message

...

It's pretty obvious as Spring arrives the weather will warm.

Len
in tropical Wembury
...............
Unfortunately, Len, this does not look likely to happen this coming Monday,
at least here.

Roger
in sopping Farnborough

We are into trying to define Spring here Roger.
It's a moveable feast. Climatologically it could begin on 1st March.
But then there is the vernal equinox on 21st March.
Will was suggesting the latter 'when the sun moves north of the
equator'.

Len
Wembury, SW Devon

On 24 Feb, 09:43, Dawlish wrote:
On Feb 24, 9:27*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

Thank you for metioning me and no-one else. The reason for that is
that this particular piece of monitoring gets under your skin.

*14% success over 8 forecasts over a 4 month period in 2009*.

No matter how much you'd like someone, anyone, to believe you, your
ideas simply don't work. The only way to judge any forecaster is by
outcome success over time. Your forecasting success, quite simply, is
no good.

I mentioned everyone else but singled you out for your unerring
stupidity.

I don't normally bother reading your stuff so to say I have you under
my skin is not quite true.

I've got you under my bum
I've got you deep in the fart of me

So deep in my fart
You smell like a part of me
I've got you under my bum

Don't you know stupid fool
You never can win
You lack the mentality
I'd wake you up to reality
But each time I do
Just the thought of you
Makes me stop before I begin

You sacrifice anything
Everything nice
For the sake of having me hear
In spite of a warning voice
That comes in the night
I repeat it and shout in your ear:

Don't you know you fool
You never can win
Use your mentality
Wake up to reality

You've got me under your skin.

On Feb 24, 11:20*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On 24 Feb, 09:43, Dawlish wrote:

On Feb 24, 9:27*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

Thank you for metioning me and no-one else. The reason for that is
that this particular piece of monitoring gets under your skin.

*14% success over 8 forecasts over a 4 month period in 2009*.

No matter how much you'd like someone, anyone, to believe you, your
ideas simply don't work. The only way to judge any forecaster is by
outcome success over time. Your forecasting success, quite simply, is
no good.

I mentioned everyone else but singled you out for your unerring
stupidity.

I don't normally bother reading your stuff so to say I have you under
my skin is not quite true.

I've got you under my bum
I've got you deep in the fart of me

So deep in my fart
You smell like a part of me
I've got you under my bum

Don't you know stupid fool
You never can win
You lack the mentality
I'd wake you up to reality
But each time I do
Just the thought of you
Makes me stop before I begin

You sacrifice anything
Everything nice
For the sake of having me hear
In spite of a warning voice
That comes in the night
I repeat it and shout in your ear:

Don't you know you fool
You never can win
Use your mentality
Wake up to reality

You've got me under your skin.

*)) No forecast success: no good

In message , Will Hand
writes
Seriously Jim, when the sun comes north of the equator and jet moves
well north in response.
End of March! Some milder interludes of course before then.

Will

Roll on17.32 on 20th March, counting the days. ;-))
--


Jim

In message , Phil Layton
writes
Col wrote:
"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
...

Never underestimate the capacity for masochism of the snow ballers.
When this current appalling, and seemingly interminable, winter ends
they'll still be moaning that it didn't match '47 or '63 and hoping
for a final April freeze up.

I don't think even the most hard-line snow lover would want
a snowy Easter!
Yes, this winter is dragging and I'd like to see some spring soon.
I certainly wouldn't want the cold to drag on beyond mid-March.

There has not been much snow down in SE England. None has settled
during February here, and I'm kinda forgetting what January was like...
I wouldnt mind a snowy Easter!

Phil


Told you see!! ;-))
--


Jim