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"Len Wood" wrote in message
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On Feb 24, 10:14 am, "Roger Smith" wrote:
"Len Wood" wrote in message

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It's pretty obvious as Spring arrives the weather will warm.

Len
in tropical Wembury
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Unfortunately, Len, this does not look likely to happen this coming
Monday,
at least here.

Roger
in sopping Farnborough


We are into trying to define Spring here Roger.
It's a moveable feast. Climatologically it could begin on 1st March.
But then there is the vernal equinox on 21st March.
Will was suggesting the latter 'when the sun moves north of the
equator'.

Len
Wembury, SW Devon

Len, I know, but...

Small correction - the vernal equinox falls on 20th March. Except as far as
the churches are concerned, it does not fall again on 21st March until, I
believe, around the year 2107.

Roger

PS However I have seen a New Zealand calendar for 2010 in which the autumn
equinox (sic) is listed as 21st March. But they are 13 hours ahead of us
and the actual time of the equinox is 20.18 UT(Z?) on the 20th.

PS 2 Steady rain again here, after just a gloomy 3 hours or so.



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The only thing I can say about the winter here in East Yorkshire is the lack
of mild days. Otherwise a nice snowy 1/2 days just before Xmas, one more
snowy day just after new year, and 6 inches last Sun morning which was
thawing well by the afternoon.

Nothing like winters in the 60's or 70's.

Trevor
east Yorkshire
"jbm" wrote in message
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After yet another lively fall of snow this afternoon here in Northampton,
I was wondering if any of you nice knowledgeable weather forecasters out
there would care to put your reputations on the line and tell us when this
lot is going to end.

I know they say a little of what you enjoy is good for you. But surely,
enough is enough. 2 months ago, most of you were ripping it up with
comments like "Ooh, yummy, snow", "When's the snow arriving?", "How much
snow are we going to get?", "Is there any more snow on the way?", "Oh what
fun", and "Isn't it wonderful". Then over the last few days, I've noticed
some concern in the posts, with an increasing number of people coming
round to my way of thinking, stating quite clearly that the fun is
starting to wear just a tad thin.

Even nature is ****ed off. My snow drops poked their noses up last week,
thought twice about it, and have now reclassified themselves as "snow
burrieds".

So come on you lot, when is this going to end?

jim, Northampton


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I largely don;'t bother reading your stuff as it seems to be in a strange
language.


"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
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On 24 Feb, 09:43, Dawlish wrote:
On Feb 24, 9:27 am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

Thank you for metioning me and no-one else. The reason for that is
that this particular piece of monitoring gets under your skin.

*14% success over 8 forecasts over a 4 month period in 2009*.

No matter how much you'd like someone, anyone, to believe you, your
ideas simply don't work. The only way to judge any forecaster is by
outcome success over time. Your forecasting success, quite simply, is
no good.


I mentioned everyone else but singled you out for your unerring
stupidity.

I don't normally bother reading your stuff so to say I have you under
my skin is not quite true.

I've got you under my bum
I've got you deep in the fart of me

So deep in my fart
You smell like a part of me
I've got you under my bum

Don't you know stupid fool
You never can win
You lack the mentality
I'd wake you up to reality
But each time I do
Just the thought of you
Makes me stop before I begin

You sacrifice anything
Everything nice
For the sake of having me hear
In spite of a warning voice
That comes in the night
I repeat it and shout in your ear:

Don't you know you fool
You never can win
Use your mentality
Wake up to reality

You've got me under your skin.

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of course youve mastered "no forecast"

i guess your no good too.

prat



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*)) No forecast success: no good


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"Will Hand" wrote in message
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Seriously Jim, when the sun comes north of the equator and jet moves well
north in response.
End of March! Some milder interludes of course before then.

Will
--

Thanks Will. The only really comprehensible answer out of the whole lot.

The problem here is my inability to get onto the lawn, due to a liberal
covering a white infestation, and find all the detritus (dog ****) deposited
by one completely demented Border Collie during two weeks in January when I
was too ill to do anything about it. I know it's there, I know it's doing
the lawn no good, but I just can't see or find it. So all I was asking was
when this was all going to end so I could plan ahead for the great
de-infestation that is urgently required.

And while I'm at it, I will apologise for starting this thread in the first
place. It completely slipped my mind that it would be an ideal breeding
ground for the re-ignition of the Weatherlawyer vs. Dawlish skirmish that
generally ensues when anything has them at a difference of opinion. Handbags
at the ready, guys.

jim, Northampton




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"Col" wrote in message
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I don't think even the most hard-line snow lover would want
a snowy Easter!

I think you'll find that the bookies will offer much shorter odds on a white
Easter than a white Xmas. Especially if my experiences in this country are
anything to go by. Not sure these days, but I think it's 12-1 in favour of
Easter.

jim, Northampton


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jbm writes:

"Col" wrote in message
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I don't think even the most hard-line snow lover would want
a snowy Easter!

I think you'll find that the bookies will offer much shorter odds on a white
Easter than a white Xmas. Especially if my experiences in this country are
anything to go by. Not sure these days, but I think it's 12-1 in favour of
Easter.

jim, Northampton



I'm unclear. Do you mean that a white Easter is twelve times as likely
as a white Christmas - which I find hard to believe - or that the
bookies will offer 12-1 against a white Easter (in which case it's
longer odds rather than shorter)?
--
John Hall
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from coughing."
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"John Hall" wrote in message
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I'm unclear. Do you mean that a white Easter is twelve times as likely
as a white Christmas - which I find hard to believe - or that the
bookies will offer 12-1 against a white Easter (in which case it's
longer odds rather than shorter)?
--


During my lifetime, I have only ever experienced one white Christmas in
England. I have, however, experienced 12 (or 13, I've lost count) white
Easters. I'm certainly not offering anything like a scientific study on
this, since the figures are a bit distorted, since Xmas is only one day
(25th Dec), whereas my interpretation of "Easter" is 4 days (Good Friday
through Easter Monday). To further confound the situation, my experience in
Scotland is 4 white Christmases out of 4. (Infer what you will out of that,
but in my experience every Xmas is a White Xmas north of the Border.)

What I was trying to say was that in my experience a white Easter is 12
times more likely than a white Xmas in England.

Does that clear things up for you?

jim, Northampton


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In article ,
jbm writes:

"John Hall" wrote in message
.. .

I'm unclear. Do you mean that a white Easter is twelve times as likely
as a white Christmas - which I find hard to believe - or that the
bookies will offer 12-1 against a white Easter (in which case it's
longer odds rather than shorter)?
--


During my lifetime, I have only ever experienced one white Christmas in
England. I have, however, experienced 12 (or 13, I've lost count) white
Easters. I'm certainly not offering anything like a scientific study on
this, since the figures are a bit distorted, since Xmas is only one day
(25th Dec), whereas my interpretation of "Easter" is 4 days (Good Friday
through Easter Monday). To further confound the situation, my experience in
Scotland is 4 white Christmases out of 4. (Infer what you will out of that,
but in my experience every Xmas is a White Xmas north of the Border.)

What I was trying to say was that in my experience a white Easter is 12
times more likely than a white Xmas in England.

Does that clear things up for you?


It does. Thanks. As you're counting Easter as four days, I'm less
surprised. In my part of SE England, any snow over the four days of
Easter is a rarity, though possibly still a bit more common than snow at
Christmas. The only time I can recall lying snow over Easter here was on
Good Friday, 1975, following one of the mildest winters on record.
--
John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)
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On 26/02/10 10:10, John Hall wrote:
It does. Thanks. As you're counting Easter as four days, I'm less
surprised. In my part of SE England, any snow over the four days of
Easter is a rarity, though possibly still a bit more common than snow at
Christmas. The only time I can recall lying snow over Easter here was on
Good Friday, 1975, following one of the mildest winters on record.


I recall one morning that Easter trying to scrape ice off the path at
around 10am. I was getting nowhere so had to put salt down. My Dad had
died on the Wednesday before Good Friday and it was also very cold at
his funeral a week or so later with snow showers.

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"I wear the cheese. It does not wear me."


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