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Pure guesswork: could the Germans have called it "Cynthia" but that
looks funny in French


How so?

so the French renamed in Xynthia?

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" schreef in bericht
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Why has the low pressure area been given a name?
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It has long been the custom in Germany to give names to depressions and
anticyclones progressing in alphabetical order through the year.

Since 2002 it has been possible to "sponsor" a depression or anticyclone.
You can pay EUR 199 to give your own name - or someone else's - to a
depression


I've been giving my name to meteorlogical features for years,
and they haven't even charged me!
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Paul Hyett writes:
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 at 10:31:00, John Hall
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Pure guesswork: could the Germans have called it "Cynthia" but that
looks funny in French


How so?


I said that it was pure guesswork on my part. But thinking about it,
isn't the "C" at the start of a word always "hard" in French, in which
case "Cynthia" wouldn't work for them?

so the French renamed in Xynthia?


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"John Hall" schreef in bericht
: I said that it was pure guesswork on my part. But thinking about it,
: isn't the "C" at the start of a word always "hard" in French, in which
: case "Cynthia" wouldn't work for them?

No. C is hard (= k) in French before a, o and u and soft (= s) before e, i
and y. Whether or not it is at the beginning of a word makes no
difference.

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.... Perhaps there already is a European system and perhaps 23 depressions
had already been named this year before Xynthia.
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Not perhaps - certainly. But the system is German, not European. The
names are given by the Free University of Berlin. I am not sure if there
is any formal agreement to use the German names - probably it has just
become customary in some other countries.

These are the names used so far this year
http://www.met.fu-berlin.de/adopt-a-vortex/tief/

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: However, the year is only two months old and this depression has a
: name starting with an 'X', have there really been that many weather
: systems crossing Germany in 8 weeks?

Here is the list which shows the dates on which the names were given
http://www.met.fu-berlin.de/adopt-a-vortex/tief/ .

Probably the scope of the naming covers systems that may affect Germany's
weather in some way - not necessarily passing over the country.

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"John Hall" schreef in bericht :
: Pure guesswork: could the Germans have called it "Cynthia" but that
: looks funny in French so the French renamed in Xynthia?

"Cynthia" does not look funny in French - it is a reasonably well-known name
in France as the relevant page in the French Wikipedia indicates
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia

English http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia

I cannot trace the origin of the spelling Xynthia - it may be a Greek
variant. This website
http://www.slsb.lu/prospectivestudents/slsb_gb2006.pdf has an item written
by a Luxembourg student at Stirling University called Xynthia Langers - so
it is evidently a real name !

Storm Xynthia already has its own Wikipedia page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xynthia_(storm)

Colin Youngs
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"Dave Ludlow" schreef in bericht

: I do wonder if we should adopt (or join in) the naming of "major
: systems". It could make life easier in years to come ("Burns Day
: storm" sounds better than "October 1987 great storm" and "Zebedee"
: might sound even better!
:
: We'd need several criteria and thresholds to be set and met or passed
: before names were applied, and they would be reuseable (but
: reserveable for major events like Xynthia). If we did it, a
: Europe-wide naming method would be best, I think
:
: I like the Atlantic Basin Hurricane naming system, though ours would
: be a bit more difficult, of course.

Some of these severe storms have been depressions with unusual names. In
the past we have had "Kyrill" and "Quimburga" and now "Xynthia". I think
Richard Dixon is the expert on this topic.

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On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 at 18:59:01, John Hall
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In article ,
Paul Hyett writes:
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 at 10:31:00, John Hall
wrote in uk.sci.weather :


Pure guesswork: could the Germans have called it "Cynthia" but that
looks funny in French


How so?


I said that it was pure guesswork on my part. But thinking about it,
isn't the "C" at the start of a word always "hard" in French, in which
case "Cynthia" wouldn't work for them?


I wouldn't know - I got 9% in my French exam...
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On 1 Mar, 22:06, "Colin Youngs" wrote:
" schreef in bericht
news:20aebab5-1e6b-439d-ab70-
: However, the year is only two months old and this depression has a
: name starting with an 'X', have there really been that many weather
: systems crossing Germany in 8 weeks?

Here is the list which shows the dates on which the names were givenhttp://www.met.fu-berlin.de/adopt-a-vortex/tief/.

Probably the scope of the naming covers systems that may affect Germany's
weather in some way - not necessarily passing over the country.

Colin Youngs
Brussels


Thankyou, I understand now. It seems any depression can be named, not
just the ones that pass over Germany.


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