On Sun, 16 May 2010 09:26:55 -0700 (PDT), Meteorologist
wrote:

IPCC scientist: Global cooling headed our way for the next 30 years?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/1...next-30-years/

Please comment; for the time being I take
no position myself; I am merely seeking
the truth thru usenet conversation.


Nothing to argue (Again not a peer reviewed article), except.. Winter
in the northern hemisphere will still start in late December and end
in March.. .

As for fish kill in Florida....

We finally had some NORMAL winter weather like those we used to
experienced 15-20 years ago. I.E. Oranges freezing, a couple of new
daily lows(same for Cuba), and it also killed off a bunch of
non-native species (Pythons, Iguana's, Fish). No surprises..

(P.S. It didn't kill all the Iguana's, there were survivors, they'll
be back.)

From what I've read, most of the cooler/snowy weather was a fluke
event, set up by a strong high pressure zone entrenching itself over
Greenland. That forced the jet stream to dip down into eastern half
of the US for an extended period of time.. I.E.. A LOCALISED
EVENT...

As for record amounts of snowfall on the Eastern sea board.. That's a
sure sign of warming temps, not cooling. Large snowfalls require
higher levels of moisture in the atmosphere and those maximum moisture
levels are determined by atmospheric temperature (higher of course).

I think that covers ALL of Mojib Latif's evidence..

Sorry, but this is just earth's climate being a normal chaotic system
being driven by a number of factors, some of which are very old, like
orbital tilt, distance from sun, sun's angle of incidence, solar
output variability, and some are new like the accumulation of Green
house gases, albedo changes, volcanos erupting or lack thereof.

The daily/weekly/monthly outcomes in any particular region will never
be sure thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

On Sun, 16 May 2010 15:36:26 -0400, T. Keating
wrote:

On Sun, 16 May 2010 09:26:55 -0700 (PDT), Meteorologist
wrote:

IPCC scientist: Global cooling headed our way for the next 30 years?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/1...next-30-years/

Please comment; for the time being I take
no position myself; I am merely seeking
the truth thru usenet conversation.


Nothing to argue (Again not a peer reviewed article), except.. Winter
in the northern hemisphere will still start in late December and end
in March.. .

As for fish kill in Florida....

We finally had some NORMAL winter weather like those we used to
experienced 15-20 years ago. I.E. Oranges freezing, a couple of new
daily lows(same for Cuba), and it also killed off a bunch of
non-native species (Pythons, Iguana's, Fish). No surprises..

(P.S. It didn't kill all the Iguana's, there were survivors, they'll
be back.)

From what I've read, most of the cooler/snowy weather was a fluke
event, set up by a strong high pressure zone entrenching itself over
Greenland. That forced the jet stream to dip down into eastern half
of the US for an extended period of time.. I.E.. A LOCALISED
EVENT...

As for record amounts of snowfall on the Eastern sea board.. That's a
sure sign of warming temps, not cooling. Large snowfalls require
higher levels of moisture in the atmosphere and those maximum moisture
levels are determined by atmospheric temperature (higher of course).

I think that covers ALL of Mojib Latif's evidence..

As it turns out.. Latif didn't make those claims..

http://climateprogress.org/2010/01/1...g-mojib-latif/
"Latif told me: "I don't know what to do. They just make these things
up. NSIDC Director Serreze says it is "completely false.""

"He had me reread the quotes attributed to him a number of times,
asking twice, “those are direct quotes?” After I did, he said to me:
“I don’t know what to do. They just make these things up.” "


Sorry, but this is just earth's climate being a normal chaotic system
being driven by a number of factors, some of which are very old, like
orbital tilt, distance from sun, sun's angle of incidence, solar
output variability, and some are new like the accumulation of Green
house gases, albedo changes, volcanos erupting or lack thereof.

The daily/weekly/monthly outcomes in any particular region will never
be sure thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

"T. Keating" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 May 2010 09:26:55 -0700 (PDT), Meteorologist
wrote:

IPCC scientist: Global cooling headed our way for the next 30 years?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/1...next-30-years/

Please comment; for the time being I take
no position myself; I am merely seeking
the truth thru usenet conversation.


Nothing to argue (Again not a peer reviewed article), except.. Winter
in the northern hemisphere will still start in late December and end
in March.. .

As for fish kill in Florida....

We finally had some NORMAL winter weather like those we used to
experienced 15-20 years ago. I.E. Oranges freezing, a couple of new
daily lows(same for Cuba), and it also killed off a bunch of
non-native species (Pythons, Iguana's, Fish). No surprises..

(P.S. It didn't kill all the Iguana's, there were survivors, they'll
be back.)

From what I've read, most of the cooler/snowy weather was a fluke
event, set up by a strong high pressure zone entrenching itself over
Greenland. That forced the jet stream to dip down into eastern half
of the US for an extended period of time..






ROTFLMAO

It takes a deep green leftie to spin like this!



Hot weather is caused by .

.. GLOBAL WARMING!

.. EXTREME WEATHER!

.. THE ENVIRONMENT FIGHTING BACK!



Cold weather is caused by .

.. a dry air mass and clear skies.

.. a cold front.

.. nothing in particular.











Warmest Regards



B0zn0



"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

On May 16, 9:37*pm, "I AM B.O.N.Z.O" wrote:
"T. Keating" wrote in message

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On Sun, 16 May 2010 09:26:55 -0700 (PDT), Meteorologist
wrote:

IPCC scientist: Global cooling headed our way for the next 30 years?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/1...obal-cooling-h....

Please comment; for the time being I take
no position myself; I am merely seeking
the truth thru usenet conversation.

Nothing to argue (Again not a peer reviewed article), except.. Winter
in the northern hemisphere will still start in late December and end
in March.. .

As for fish kill in Florida....

We finally had some NORMAL winter weather like those we used to
experienced 15-20 years ago. *I.E. Oranges freezing, a couple of new
daily lows(same for *Cuba), and it also killed off a bunch of
non-native species (Pythons, Iguana's, Fish). *No surprises..

(P.S. *It didn't kill all the Iguana's, there were survivors, they'll
be back.)

From what I've read, most of the cooler/snowy weather was a fluke
event, set up by a strong high pressure zone entrenching itself over
Greenland. * That forced the jet stream to dip down into eastern half
of the US for an extended period of time..

ROTFLMAO

It takes a deep green leftie to spin like this!

Hot weather is caused by .

. GLOBAL WARMING!

. EXTREME WEATHER!

. THE ENVIRONMENT FIGHTING BACK!

Cold weather is caused by .

. a dry air mass and clear skies.

. a cold front.

. nothing in particular.

Oh no, it is caused by global warming. I have had that explained to
me here several times. Hot weathe, cold weather, both are caused by
global warming. Too much rain/snow or too little rain/snow, both are
caused by global warming.

Ouch! I think I bit my tongue


Warmest Regards

B0zn0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville- Hide quoted text -

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On May 17, 3:57*am, Bruce Richmond wrote:
On May 16, 9:37*pm, "I *AM B.O.N.Z.O" wrote:





"T. Keating" wrote in message

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On Sun, 16 May 2010 09:26:55 -0700 (PDT), Meteorologist
wrote:

IPCC scientist: Global cooling headed our way for the next 30 years?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/1...obal-cooling-h....

Please comment; for the time being I take
no position myself; I am merely seeking
the truth thru usenet conversation.

Nothing to argue (Again not a peer reviewed article), except.. Winter
in the northern hemisphere will still start in late December and end
in March.. .

As for fish kill in Florida....

We finally had some NORMAL winter weather like those we used to
experienced 15-20 years ago. *I.E. Oranges freezing, a couple of new
daily lows(same for *Cuba), and it also killed off a bunch of
non-native species (Pythons, Iguana's, Fish). *No surprises..

(P.S. *It didn't kill all the Iguana's, there were survivors, they'll
be back.)

From what I've read, most of the cooler/snowy weather was a fluke
event, set up by a strong high pressure zone entrenching itself over
Greenland. * That forced the jet stream to dip down into eastern half
of the US for an extended period of time..

ROTFLMAO

It takes a deep green leftie to spin like this!

Hot weather is caused by .

. GLOBAL WARMING!

. EXTREME WEATHER!

. THE ENVIRONMENT FIGHTING BACK!

Cold weather is caused by .

. a dry air mass and clear skies.

. a cold front.

. nothing in particular.

Oh no, it is caused by global warming. *I have had that explained to
me here several times. *Hot weathe, cold weather, both are caused by
global warming. *Too much rain/snow or too little rain/snow, both are
caused by global warming.

Ouch! I think I bit my tongue



Warmest Regards

B0zn0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville- Hide quoted text -

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I think you've lost it Bruce.

Here's the present *global* temperatures:

http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...?amsutemps+001

Areas of cold and warm will occur as temperatures rise. Sometimes they
will be a consequence of that global warming. At any one time, the
colder bits don't show that global warming isn't happening, as you
seem to erroneously think.

On May 17, 8:51*am, Dawlish wrote:
On May 17, 3:57*am, Bruce Richmond wrote:





On May 16, 9:37*pm, "I *AM B.O.N.Z.O" wrote:

"T. Keating" wrote in message

.. .

On Sun, 16 May 2010 09:26:55 -0700 (PDT), Meteorologist
wrote:

IPCC scientist: Global cooling headed our way for the next 30 years?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/1...obal-cooling-h...

Please comment; for the time being I take
no position myself; I am merely seeking
the truth thru usenet conversation.

Nothing to argue (Again not a peer reviewed article), except.. Winter
in the northern hemisphere will still start in late December and end
in March.. .

As for fish kill in Florida....

We finally had some NORMAL winter weather like those we used to
experienced 15-20 years ago. *I.E. Oranges freezing, a couple of new
daily lows(same for *Cuba), and it also killed off a bunch of
non-native species (Pythons, Iguana's, Fish). *No surprises..

(P.S. *It didn't kill all the Iguana's, there were survivors, they'll
be back.)

From what I've read, most of the cooler/snowy weather was a fluke
event, set up by a strong high pressure zone entrenching itself over
Greenland. * That forced the jet stream to dip down into eastern half
of the US for an extended period of time..

ROTFLMAO

It takes a deep green leftie to spin like this!

Hot weather is caused by .

. GLOBAL WARMING!

. EXTREME WEATHER!

. THE ENVIRONMENT FIGHTING BACK!

Cold weather is caused by .

. a dry air mass and clear skies.

. a cold front.

. nothing in particular.

Oh no, it is caused by global warming. *I have had that explained to
me here several times. *Hot weathe, cold weather, both are caused by
global warming. *Too much rain/snow or too little rain/snow, both are
caused by global warming.

Ouch! I think I bit my tongue

Warmest Regards

B0zn0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville- Hide quoted text -

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I think you've lost it Bruce.

Here's the present *global* temperatures:

http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...?amsutemps+001

Areas of cold and warm will occur as temperatures rise. Sometimes they
will be a consequence of that global warming.

Thank you for confirming that cooling can be blamed on global
warming. Why have I lost it when I say that but you have not lost it
for saying the same thing?

At any one time, the
colder bits don't show that global warming isn't happening, as you
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On May 18, 3:09*am, Bruce Richmond wrote:
On May 17, 8:51*am, Dawlish wrote:





On May 17, 3:57*am, Bruce Richmond wrote:

On May 16, 9:37*pm, "I *AM B.O.N.Z.O" wrote:

"T. Keating" wrote in message

.. .

On Sun, 16 May 2010 09:26:55 -0700 (PDT), Meteorologist
wrote:

IPCC scientist: Global cooling headed our way for the next 30 years?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/1...obal-cooling-h...

Please comment; for the time being I take
no position myself; I am merely seeking
the truth thru usenet conversation.

Nothing to argue (Again not a peer reviewed article), except.. Winter
in the northern hemisphere will still start in late December and end
in March.. .

As for fish kill in Florida....

We finally had some NORMAL winter weather like those we used to
experienced 15-20 years ago. *I.E. Oranges freezing, a couple of new
daily lows(same for *Cuba), and it also killed off a bunch of
non-native species (Pythons, Iguana's, Fish). *No surprises..

(P.S. *It didn't kill all the Iguana's, there were survivors, they'll
be back.)

From what I've read, most of the cooler/snowy weather was a fluke
event, set up by a strong high pressure zone entrenching itself over
Greenland. * That forced the jet stream to dip down into eastern half
of the US for an extended period of time..

ROTFLMAO

It takes a deep green leftie to spin like this!

Hot weather is caused by .

. GLOBAL WARMING!

. EXTREME WEATHER!

. THE ENVIRONMENT FIGHTING BACK!

Cold weather is caused by .

. a dry air mass and clear skies.

. a cold front.

. nothing in particular.

Oh no, it is caused by global warming. *I have had that explained to
me here several times. *Hot weathe, cold weather, both are caused by
global warming. *Too much rain/snow or too little rain/snow, both are
caused by global warming.

Ouch! I think I bit my tongue

Warmest Regards

B0zn0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville- Hide quoted text -

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I think you've lost it Bruce.

Here's the present *global* temperatures:

http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...?amsutemps+001

Areas of cold and warm will occur as temperatures rise. Sometimes they
will be a consequence of that global warming.

Thank you for confirming that cooling can be blamed on global
warming. *Why have I lost it when I say that but you have not lost it
for saying the same thing?



At any one time, the
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You don't understand local changes in weather always produce cooler
areas while the globe overall warms. I can't help you until you do.