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It looks as if a lead is forming on either side of the melt pool below
web cam 2, caused by the spring tides generated by a full moon?

(Web cam 1 seems to have given up.)

Cheers, Alastair.

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On Sunday 25 July 2010 20:05, Alastair scribbled:

It looks as if a lead

is forming on either side of the melt pool below
web cam 2, caused by

the spring tides generated by a full moon?


Yes, I noticed that. Also,
the lead I mentioned last month between the sets of instruments has
widened over the past few days. The yellow buoy(?) seems to be falling in
slow motion. The melt pool looks to have a thin layer of ice on it,
judging by the lack of any clear reflections.


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"Graham P Davis" wrote in message
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On Sunday 25 July 2010 20:05, Alastair scribbled:

It looks as if a lead

is forming on either side of the melt pool below
web cam 2, caused by

the spring tides generated by a full moon?


Yes, I noticed that. Also,
the lead I mentioned last month between the sets of instruments has
widened over the past few days. The yellow buoy(?) seems to be falling in
slow motion. The melt pool looks to have a thin layer of ice on it,
judging by the lack of any clear reflections.


--
Graham Davis,
Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy
Alcohol facts: Healthiest
weekly amount is 21-30 units.
Consume 63 and you'll live only as long as
a teetotaller.


To Alastair and Graham

And....................

By the way why so jaundiced about that buoy ?


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On Jul 25, 7:33*pm, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sunday 25 July 2010 20:05, Alastair scribbled:

It looks as if a lead


is forming on either side of the melt pool below web cam 2, caused by

the spring tides generated by a full moon?



Yes, I noticed that. Also,
the lead I mentioned last month between the sets of instruments has
widened over the past few days. The yellow buoy(?) seems to be falling in
slow motion. The melt pool looks to have a thin layer of ice on it,
judging by the lack of any clear reflections.


There was a significant snow fall a few days ago and I think some of
the snow settled on the melt pool if that is possible.

It just might be if the melt pool was salty and so at a temperature of
less than 0C.

Cheers, Alastair.
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On Sunday 25 July 2010 23:29, Alastair scribbled:

On Jul 25, 7:33 pm,

Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sunday 25 July 2010

20:05, Alastair scribbled:

It looks as if a lead


is forming

on either side of the melt pool below web cam 2, caused by

the

spring tides generated by a full moon?



Yes, I noticed that.

Also,
the lead I mentioned last month between the sets of instruments

has
widened over the past few days. The yellow buoy(?) seems to be

falling in
slow motion. The melt pool looks to have a thin layer of ice

on it,
judging by the lack of any clear reflections.


There was a

significant snow fall a few days ago and I think some of
the snow

settled on the melt pool if that is possible.

It just might be if the

melt pool was salty and so at a temperature of
less than 0C.


I
wonder how salty the pool would be. I would have thought the instruments
would have been sited on multi-year ice which would have been relatively
free of salt.

--
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: newsman, not
newsboy
Alcohol facts: Healthiest weekly amount is 21-30 units.
Consume
63 and you'll live only as long as a teetotaller.



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On Jul 26, 6:05*am, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sunday 25 July 2010 23:29, Alastair scribbled:

On Jul 25, 7:33 pm,


Graham P Davis wrote: On Sunday 25 July 2010

20:05, Alastair scribbled:

It looks as if a lead


is forming


on either side of the melt pool below web cam 2, caused by

the


spring tides generated by a full moon?

Yes, I noticed that.

Also,
the lead I mentioned last month between the sets of instruments

has
widened over the past few days. The yellow buoy(?) seems to be

falling in
slow motion. The melt pool looks to have a thin layer of ice

on it,
judging by the lack of any clear reflections.


There was a


significant snow fall a few days ago and I think some of the snow

settled on the melt pool if that is possible.

It just might be if the


melt pool was salty and so at a temperature of

less than 0C.


I
wonder how salty the pool would be. I would have thought the instruments
would have been sited on multi-year ice which would have been relatively
free of salt.


The ice is fairly flat so I thought it was first year ice. There has
been another snow/sleet shower overnight. Wouldn't that mean clouds
and so no frost/freezing, yet the melt pool seems to be covered with
something.

Cheers, Alastair.
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On Monday 26 July 2010 09:34, Alastair scribbled:

On Jul 26, 6:05 am,

Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sunday 25 July 2010

23:29, Alastair scribbled:

On Jul 25, 7:33 pm,


Graham P

Davis wrote: On Sunday 25 July 2010


20:05, Alastair scribbled:

It looks as if a lead


is

forming

on either side of the melt pool below web cam 2, caused

by

the


spring tides generated by a full moon?

Yes,

I noticed that.
Also,
the lead I mentioned last month between the

sets of instruments
has
widened over the past few days. The

yellow buoy(?) seems to be
falling in
slow motion. The melt pool

looks to have a thin layer of ice
on it,
judging by the lack of

any clear reflections.

There was a


significant snow fall a

few days ago and I think some of the snow

settled on the melt pool

if that is possible.

It just might be if the


melt pool was

salty and so at a temperature of

less than 0C.


I
wonder

how salty the pool would be. I would have thought the instruments
would

have been sited on multi-year ice which would have been relatively
free

of salt.

The ice is fairly flat so I thought it was first year ice.

There has
been another snow/sleet shower overnight. Wouldn't that mean

clouds
and so no frost/freezing, yet the melt pool seems to be covered

with
something.


I think the sub-zero period before that past couple
of days may have something to do with
it.
http://psc.apl.washington.edu/northp...os_recent.html

--

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facts: Healthiest weekly amount is 21-30 units.
Consume 63 and you'll
live only as long as a teetotaller.

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On Jul 26, 9:03*am, Graham P Davis wrote:

I think the sub-zero period before that past couple
of days may have something to do with
it.http://psc.apl.washington.edu/northp...os_recent.html


Interesting! I did not know that info. was there.

Here's the melt pond in case any else does not know what we are
talking about:
http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/latest/noaa2.jpg

There seems to be an "iceberg" in the midle of the pond seen more
clearly on Sunday's photo:
http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/npole/201...725-190401.jpg.
Any idea what is causing it?

Cheers, Alastair.

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"Alastair" wrote in message
...
On Jul 26, 9:03 am, Graham P Davis wrote:

I think the sub-zero period before that past couple
of days may have something to do with
it.http://psc.apl.washington.edu/northp...os_recent.html


Interesting! I did not know that info. was there.

Here's the melt pond in case any else does not know what we are
talking about:
http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/latest/noaa2.jpg

There seems to be an "iceberg" in the midle of the pond seen more
clearly on Sunday's photo:
http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/npole/201...725-190401.jpg.
Any idea what is causing it?

Cheers, Alastair.

I wouldn't heed that webcam anyways as it's using the old film lot in Nevada
where they faked the moon landings. That's polystyrene you're lookin' at.


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On Jul 26, 5:24*pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:
"Alastair" wrote in message

...
On Jul 26, 9:03 am, Graham P Davis wrote:

I think the sub-zero period before that past couple
of days may have something to do with
it.http://psc.apl.washington.edu/northp...os_recent.html


Interesting! I did not know that info. was there.

Here's the melt pond in case any else does not know what we are
talking about:http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/latest/noaa2.jpg

There seems to be an "iceberg" in the midle of the pond seen more
clearly on Sunday's photo:http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/npole/201...725-190401.jpg.
Any idea what is causing it?

Cheers, Alastair.

I wouldn't heed that webcam anyways as it's using the old film lot in Nevada
where they faked the moon landings. *That's polystyrene you're lookin' at.


A blog regarding Arctic Sea ice appeared on RealClimate today:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...n-icy-retreat/

Of course if you believe that AGW is a scam and that the moon landings
were faked, then it is probably not for you :-(

Cheers, Alastair.


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