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Probably not of much interest to those who are only interested in the
weather, but it is not just snow that is going to leave the British
scene - blackberries will be doomed too!

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=52896

Cheers, Alastair.


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"Alastair" wrote in message
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Probably not of much interest to those who are only interested in the
weather, but it is not just snow that is going to leave the British
scene - blackberries will be doomed too!

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=52896

Cheers, Alastair.


We shall see. Last winter took a lot of government people and planners by
surprise, it was so funny to behold.
Climate Change includes colder and snowier winters in the UK you know!

Will
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"Alastair" wrote in message
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Probably not of much interest to those who are only interested in the
weather, but it is not just snow that is going to leave the British
scene - blackberries will be doomed too!

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=52896

Cheers, Alastair.



Yeah. Mark Serreze's and those who actually pay taxes catch a severe cold.


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"Will Hand" wrote in message
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"Alastair" wrote in message
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Probably not of much interest to those who are only interested in the
weather, but it is not just snow that is going to leave the British
scene - blackberries will be doomed too!

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=52896

Cheers, Alastair.


We shall see. Last winter took a lot of government people and planners by
surprise, it was so funny to behold.
Climate Change includes colder and snowier winters in the UK you know!

Will
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No Will get it right, its now called Climate Change Disruption
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index....disruption-yes


Yup that just about covers the bleedin' lot doesn't it?


We are being collectively brainwashed.

I like this George Orwell quote:

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.


I know where I stand.


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On 23/09/2010 22:20, Will Hand wrote:

"Alastair" wrote in message
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Probably not of much interest to those who are only interested in the
weather, but it is not just snow that is going to leave the British
scene - blackberries will be doomed too!

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=52896

Cheers, Alastair.


We shall see. Last winter took a lot of government people and planners
by surprise, it was so funny to behold.
Climate Change includes colder and snowier winters in the UK you know!

Will


This seems to happen almost every time there is a significant large
scale event.

Examples:

An increase in mild, stormy winters in the 1980's and 1990's resulted in
lots of claims that the UK would see incressingly wetter and stormier
winters with climate change.

Now, we have a couple of cold winters and some are saying the UK will
see colder winters with climate change.

Is what actually happened more likely due to the NAO being in a positive
phase for an unusually long time then switching to a more negative phase
at the turn of the century?

We have seen this with hurricanes as well.

After the very destructive 2004 and 2005 Atlantic hurricane seasons
there were papers published linking the heightened activity to warming
tropical sea surface temperatures which suggested that climate change
was at least partly responsible.

Then, after the benign 2006 and 2007 hurricane seasons, there was a
paper published suggesting that climate change would lead to increased
vertical wind shear over the tropical Atlantic reducing hurricane activity.


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On Sep 23, 10:55*pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.


So I have discovered!

Cheers, Alastair.
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On Thursday, 23 September 2010 22:15:36 UTC+1, Alastair wrote:

Probably not of much interest to those who are only interested in the
weather, but it is not just snow that is going to leave the British
scene - blackberries will be doomed too!

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=52896

Cheers, Alastair.


Interesting that Google now (and despite all other cause for complaint) allows you to post to ancient threads. It's almost as good as the good old days. (Only not.)

How does a non-existent hurricane season affect the sea ice in the Arctic Circle?
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SNIP

The telling thing in that paper is the relentless rise in CO2 but not the
same rise in temperature.
The only conclusion I can come to is that there is
far more to climate change than CO2 considerations which appear too
simplistic.

Will
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My understanding is that more energy has been absorbed by the oceans in recent years (partly due to El Nino etc.)

Climate change certainly is complex & little understood, which makes it even more important that we should take care what we throw into the environment.


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