It has come to my attention lately ,that several members of this happy breed
seem to take grave exception to those of us who attempt making long range
forecasts,
well ,I for one, actually enjoy reading most of 'em,even the south London
Piers attempts !,.
If there are enough mugs around to pay good money for their ravings well so
be it,but why do people get so upset because they try ?.Most of us have a
vicarious streak in us ,which needs feeding every so often,so keep up the
good work lads( I say lads because women don't seem prone to this phenomena)
Unashamably I now look forward to Wills ,Philip Eden,the Met Office,Old
Moores Almanac,and any other brave soul willing to put their necks on the
line so that I may daydream about the next blizzard ,heatwave ,or whatever
turns you on.
Thankyou and goodnight

RonB

"ronaldbutton" wrote in message
...
It has come to my attention lately ,that several members of this happy
breed seem to take grave exception to those of us who attempt making long
range forecasts,
well ,I for one, actually enjoy reading most of 'em,even the south London
Piers attempts !,.
If there are enough mugs around to pay good money for their ravings well
so be it,but why do people get so upset because they try ?.Most of us have
a vicarious streak in us ,which needs feeding every so often,so keep up
the good work lads( I say lads because women don't seem prone to this
phenomena)
Unashamably I now look forward to Wills ,Philip Eden,the Met Office,Old
Moores Almanac,and any other brave soul willing to put their necks on the
line so that I may daydream about the next blizzard ,heatwave ,or whatever
turns you on.
Thankyou and goodnight

RonB

Cheers Ron, I enjoy producing them and I take pleasure when they
occasionally come off! This winter's has already gone wrong (though not the
informal amendment), but it went wrong in the right way (for me).

I still reckon it will be a historic winter!

Will
--

On Jan 4, 5:08*pm, "Will Hand" wrote:
"ronaldbutton" wrote in message

...





It has come to my attention lately ,that several members of this happy
breed seem to take grave exception to those of us who attempt making long
range forecasts,
well ,I for one, actually enjoy reading most of 'em,even the south London
Piers attempts !,.
If there are enough mugs around to pay good money for their ravings well
so be it,but why do people get so upset because they try ?.Most of us have
a vicarious streak in us ,which needs feeding every so often,so keep up
the good work lads( I say lads because women don't seem prone to this
phenomena)
Unashamably I now look forward to Wills ,Philip Eden,the Met Office,Old
Moores Almanac,and any other brave soul willing to put their necks on the
line so that I may daydream about the next blizzard ,heatwave ,or whatever
turns you on.
Thankyou and goodnight

RonB

Cheers Ron, I enjoy producing them and I take pleasure when they
occasionally come off! This winter's has already gone wrong (though not the
informal amendment), but it went wrong in the right way (for me).

I still reckon it will be a historic winter!

I hear rumours of a sudden stratospheric warming event in forecasts.
If it does come off I wonder if it'll propagate downward like last (?)
winter and fiddle with the troposphere.

And yes I agree with you Ron: it's enjoyable reading the various
forecasts even if a) some are naff and b) some people seem to want to
verify everything under the sun.

Richard

Will Hand wrote:

"ronaldbutton" wrote in message
...
It has come to my attention lately ,that several members of this happy
breed seem to take grave exception to those of us who attempt making
long range forecasts,
well ,I for one, actually enjoy reading most of 'em,even the south
London Piers attempts !,.
If there are enough mugs around to pay good money for their ravings
well so be it,but why do people get so upset because they try ?.Most
of us have a vicarious streak in us ,which needs feeding every so
often,so keep up the good work lads( I say lads because women don't
seem prone to this phenomena)
Unashamably I now look forward to Wills ,Philip Eden,the Met
Office,Old Moores Almanac,and any other brave soul willing to put
their necks on the line so that I may daydream about the next blizzard
,heatwave ,or whatever turns you on.
Thankyou and goodnight

RonB

Cheers Ron, I enjoy producing them and I take pleasure when they
occasionally come off! This winter's has already gone wrong (though not
the informal amendment), but it went wrong in the right way (for me).

I still reckon it will be a historic winter!

Will
----------------------
Well it has been an historic December anyway and you and the Met Office
did well in predicting it. Ron knows what I think of LRF's but it
doesn't mean people shouldn't make them or others read them. I also
don't understand this bravery thing. Meteorology is supposed to be a
science as far as I know so a forecast of any kind should be based on
the best available scientific data and if it turns out wrong then that's
not a problem. What is a problem and I don't enjoy are people claiming
they were right when they patently weren't - this is fraud, especially
when people have paid. Then there are others that are so vague that I
could have done it by sticking a pin in it and saying it was a good
forecast.I have yet to see anyone get them consistently right and until
they do, to me they are a waste of time.
Dave

On Jan 4, 5:08*pm, "Will Hand" wrote:


Cheers Ron, I enjoy producing them and I take pleasure when they
occasionally come off! This winter's has already gone wrong (though not the
informal amendment), but it went wrong in the right way (for me).

I still reckon it will be a historic winter!

Will
--

Mmm, do I sense a carrot Will, I'm beginning to lean towards my
original 'it was an early winter so Jan/Feb will be average' thoughts,
but a long time to go yet ;-)

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"

On Jan 4, 5:37*pm, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:

Mmm, do I sense a carrot Will, I'm beginning to lean towards my
original 'it was an early winter so Jan/Feb will be average' thoughts,
but a long time to go yet ;-)

Certainly sounds reasonable from the viewpoint of "things balance out
after a while" point of view. Although you'd have been waiting a long
time in 62/63 for that compensatory milder spell...!

Richard

On Jan 4, 5:45*pm, Richard Dixon wrote:
On Jan 4, 5:37*pm, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:

Mmm, do I sense a carrot Will, I'm beginning to lean towards my
original 'it was an early winter so Jan/Feb will be average' thoughts,
but a long time to go yet ;-)

Certainly sounds reasonable from the viewpoint of "things balance out
after a while" point of view. Although you'd have been waiting a long
time in 62/63 for that compensatory milder spell...!

Richard

Ah, but 1962/63 didn't start until Boxing Day.

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"

"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
...
On Jan 4, 5:08 pm, "Will Hand" wrote:
"ronaldbutton" wrote in message

...





It has come to my attention lately ,that several members of this happy
breed seem to take grave exception to those of us who attempt making
long
range forecasts,
well ,I for one, actually enjoy reading most of 'em,even the south
London
Piers attempts !,.
If there are enough mugs around to pay good money for their ravings well
so be it,but why do people get so upset because they try ?.Most of us
have
a vicarious streak in us ,which needs feeding every so often,so keep up
the good work lads( I say lads because women don't seem prone to this
phenomena)
Unashamably I now look forward to Wills ,Philip Eden,the Met Office,Old
Moores Almanac,and any other brave soul willing to put their necks on
the
line so that I may daydream about the next blizzard ,heatwave ,or
whatever
turns you on.
Thankyou and goodnight

RonB

Cheers Ron, I enjoy producing them and I take pleasure when they
occasionally come off! This winter's has already gone wrong (though not
the
informal amendment), but it went wrong in the right way (for me).

I still reckon it will be a historic winter!

I hear rumours of a sudden stratospheric warming event in forecasts.
If it does come off I wonder if it'll propagate downward like last (?)
winter and fiddle with the troposphere.

And yes I agree with you Ron: it's enjoyable reading the various
forecasts even if a) some are naff and b) some people seem to want to
verify everything under the sun.

Richard
=============

On a point of verification, the best verification I get for my weekly
dartmoor forecasts are when people e-mail me and tell how great and useful
they are and how it helps them to plan their lives. Clearly rural Dartmoor
folk can understand and use confidence factors that I give.

Here is an example
" Just to let you know how useful your forecasts are and to thank you very
much for them throughout the year. We live at around 380m asl towards
Heathercombe and rely on your forecasts as an early warning for getting in
supplies as we are always cut off once the snow arrives. So many thanks once
again for all your sterling work and a Happy New Year to you and your
family. "

E-mails like that keep me going!

Will
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Will
--

"ronaldbutton" wrote in message
...
It has come to my attention lately ,that several members of this happy
breed seem to take grave exception to those of us who attempt making long
range forecasts,
well ,I for one, actually enjoy reading most of 'em,even the south London
Piers attempts !,.
If there are enough mugs around to pay good money for their ravings well
so be it,but why do people get so upset because they try ?.Most of us have
a vicarious streak in us ,which needs feeding every so often,so keep up
the good work lads( I say lads because women don't seem prone to this
phenomena)
Unashamably I now look forward to Wills ,Philip Eden,the Met Office,Old
Moores Almanac,and any other brave soul willing to put their necks on the
line so that I may daydream about the next blizzard ,heatwave ,or whatever
turns you on.
Thankyou and goodnight

RonB


Well Ronald I never make predictions and I can safely say I won't be making
any in the future.

Anyhow some are just awful..........but I do like them.

"Will Hand" wrote in message
...

"ronaldbutton" wrote in message
...
It has come to my attention lately ,that several members of this happy
breed seem to take grave exception to those of us who attempt making long
range forecasts,
well ,I for one, actually enjoy reading most of 'em,even the south London
Piers attempts !,.
If there are enough mugs around to pay good money for their ravings well
so be it,but why do people get so upset because they try ?.Most of us
have a vicarious streak in us ,which needs feeding every so often,so keep
up the good work lads( I say lads because women don't seem prone to this
phenomena)
Unashamably I now look forward to Wills ,Philip Eden,the Met Office,Old
Moores Almanac,and any other brave soul willing to put their necks on the
line so that I may daydream about the next blizzard ,heatwave ,or
whatever turns you on.
Thankyou and goodnight

RonB

Cheers Ron, I enjoy producing them and I take pleasure when they
occasionally come off! This winter's has already gone wrong (though not
the informal amendment), but it went wrong in the right way (for me).

I still reckon it will be a historic winter!

Will
--


Well Will I see Accuweather via Joe is showing a major cold out break all
the way to the deep south, thank you ma'am. The actual models show snow as
far south as Galveston and that's enough to freeze of your Glenn Campbell's.
However I don't think that fits the pattern of J B's LRF for the USA which
was cold and snowy up until Christmas and then fairly benign.

Anyway Will what are you seeing that fills you with such damned bravado?