I see two of the Titans of this group are taking diametrically opposite
views comcerning the second half of January.
Darren alias GMS says a prolonged mild spell is likely ,whilst Will reckons
it could be record breaking cold..... unequivocal wouldn't one say ?.
Ladies and gentlemen place your bets.

RonB

On Jan 6, 11:04*am, "ronaldbutton" wrote:
I see two of the Titans of this group are taking diametrically opposite
views comcerning the second half of January.
Darren alias GMS says a prolonged mild spell is likely ,whilst Will reckons
it could be record breaking cold..... *unequivocal wouldn't one say ?.
Ladies and gentlemen place your bets.

RonB

£5 each way on NorthOfTheM4Corridor in the 2.30 on the all-weather at
Lingfield, please.

If will is basing his thoughts solely on the assumption that the SSW
event will propagate downward and block us up again then that's a fair
bit of neck-sticking-out !

Richard

On Jan 6, 11:04*am, "ronaldbutton" wrote:
I see two of the Titans of this group are taking diametrically opposite
views comcerning the second half of January.
Darren alias GMS says a prolonged mild spell is likely ,whilst Will reckons
it could be record breaking cold..... *unequivocal wouldn't one say ?.
Ladies and gentlemen place your bets.

RonB

Milder than the present on the 14th - already forecast. Lots of
agreement and consistency that the milder weather will extend a day
further than that, at least. Out beyond mid month.......??

On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 06:00:37 -0800 (PST), Richard Dixon
wrote:

I notice one of the Beeb forecasters actually said "suckers
gap" (might have been Cockroft on the London forecast) the other day!

The top two Google results for Suckers Gap are links to this very
newgroup, I've been checking occasionally for it to spread beyond
these shores so perhaps now, it is starting to do so!

Unlike Bartlett High, which is only 6th (link to the FAQ). A few
schools have that name too.

--
Dave

In article m,
Lawrence Jenkins writes:
When will we actually experience a "suckers gap" haven't so far since the
term was coined here

In the south we had one for a few days in mid-December. IIRC we also had
one last winter, at the end of December and start of January.
--
John Hall
"I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
will hardly mind anything else."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)

? Darren alias GMS says a prolonged mild spell is likely ,whilst Will
reckons
it could be record breaking cold..... unequivocal wouldn't one say ?.
Heh, I'm going by what the NWP is saying (and with an admitted emphasis on
the south at that, as we don't - to my knowledge - get to see the ECM
ensembles for anywhere else in the UK).

The models all seem to be very consistent in modelling a strong and
relatively zonal jet over the Atlantic at around our latitude, which as far
as the models are concerned will bring a mild spell of anywhere from 5 to 10
days. Beyond that there's the usual scatter, but it's worth mentioning that
the operational GFS is very keen to restore a cold block by the end of its
run (16 days) and has been for a few runs now. I normally pay little
attention that far out (the resolution then is tiny and the snowball effect
means any errors multiply exponentially) but it's worth keeping an eye on.

The ECM ensembles for London show a mild spell, followed by slightly less
mild weather out to the end of the 15-day run; by then it shows the sort of
weather that's close to average by day but with night time temperatures a
few degrees above average. That's the sort of thing that though technically
mild wouldn't be called it by most!

I do wonder if this winter has a sting in the tail though, there's plenty of
time yet for cold weather to return!