"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
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Well not on accepted treatments Dave, we know that if a tumour develops
that there are increasingly new approaches to try and contain or eradicate
but with AGW we have yet to see the so called tumours. The secondary issue
is that as a human race we need energy , vast amounts otherwise we will
perish so to continue with the cancer analogy AGW's would have us remove
our hearts and lungs to deal with what could be but not we are sure yet a
possible malignant cell found on our finger.

With AGW then maybe it's a matter of prevention rather than cure?
By the time the tumours appear, it's too late.....

As far as energy is concerned then even if AGW doesn't exist
we know fossil fuels are limited so either way we have to find
alternatives.
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Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
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Two things I can say with certainty though is that Deningplole knows
precious little more than me and he is also a prat of the highest order.

LOL!

Depending on how you read that
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Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
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On Jan 25, 10:40 am, Lawrence13 wrote:

Surely AGW science is still largly speculative whereas medical
knowledge is not.

As an interesting side-topic, have a read of "Good Calories Bad
Calories" on the science of nutrition and you'll see how some areas of
scientific dogma are grounded in quite sketchy research (and in the
case of low-fat, high carb diets, funded by the cereal industry) going
back to the 1950s.

Richard


Yes I always found the Michel Montignac principles put the NHS doctrine
mantra on its head. So are you saying that the science is being skewed by
vested interest.

Actually this chap is the daddy of propaganda and inspired Goebals he also
apparently made bacon and eggs seem like a traditional breakfast going back
70,000 years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays


The AGW movement is supported willingly and with a revolutionary zeal by the
progressive movement Fabian and the like and firmly believed that
manipulation of the masses was the only way to acheive democracy.

"Martin Brown" wrote in message
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On 25/01/2011 14:07, Richard Dixon wrote:
On Jan 25, 10:40 am, wrote:

Surely AGW science is still largly speculative whereas medical
knowledge is not.

As an interesting side-topic, have a read of "Good Calories Bad
Calories" on the science of nutrition and you'll see how some areas of
scientific dogma are grounded in quite sketchy research (and in the
case of low-fat, high carb diets, funded by the cereal industry) going
back to the 1950s.

Though slightly better for you than the high fat low carb Atkins diet
which although slimming stresses the body and possibly even helped kill
the inventor. He certainly suffered from heart problems in his later years
which put many people off his diet plan (rightly or wrongly).

Too much of anything and faddish exclusion diets are probably bad for
omnivores and a roughly balanced diet appears to be much closer to the
Japanese/Chinese diet if life expectancy is anything to go by.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Atkins died after slipping on ice as he entered his office in New York
Office. To suggest that his diet was linked to slipping over is absolutely
ludicrous. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_..._(nutritionist)

My ex -deceased Father in law as a professor of Pediatrics was very
conscious of his diet as were his whole family-he died of bowel cancer.

"Col" wrote in message
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"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
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Well not on accepted treatments Dave, we know that if a tumour develops
that there are increasingly new approaches to try and contain or
eradicate but with AGW we have yet to see the so called tumours. The
secondary issue is that as a human race we need energy , vast amounts
otherwise we will perish so to continue with the cancer analogy AGW's
would have us remove our hearts and lungs to deal with what could be but
not we are sure yet a possible malignant cell found on our finger.

With AGW then maybe it's a matter of prevention rather than cure?
By the time the tumours appear, it's too late.....

As far as energy is concerned then even if AGW doesn't exist
we know fossil fuels are limited so either way we have to find
alternatives.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Show m the AGW ilness and then I'll discus prevention.

"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
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In message
,
Lawrence13 writes
On Jan 25, 3:07 am, Jim Kewley wrote:
In message
,
Andy Page writes

An excellent and well informed investigation by Sir Paul Nurse,
President of the Royal Society, of the reasons why science is often
under attack and why public confidence in theories is being
undermined. Well worth a watch if you missed it. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/
iplayer/episode/b00y4yql/Horizon_20102011_Science_Under_Attack/)

Andy.

As you say an excellent programme, something the BBC do far better than
any other TV company.

I especially enjoyed the way James Deningpole of the Telegraph made a
total prat of himself.

--

Jim

Surely AGW science is still largly speculative whereas medical
knowledge is not.


I'm not qualified to comment on either, I'm just a layman trying to make
sense of it all. However I do try to take into account all sides of the
discussion and debate, whilst trying not let my own prejudices encroach.

Two things I can say with certainty though is that Deningplole knows
precious little more than me and he is also a prat of the highest order.
--

Jim

Jim stop calling the noble James, Deningplole.
That's not very polite ;-)

In article om,
says...

My ex -deceased Father in law


I hear a stake through the heart can solve that.



Sorry.

--
Alan LeHun

In article om,
says...

so to continue with the cancer analogy


Probably not a good idea, if we believe the global population growth
predictions.


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Alan LeHun

"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
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Unlike the Guardian that well known biased organisation.

All newspapaers have a political slant or 'bias'.
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Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
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Show m the AGW ilness and then I'll discus prevention.

You wouldn't believe it as you consider anyone
who had an opinion counter to yours to have an
'agenda' or to be working for the left-wing biased
Guardian or BBC.
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Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl