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A couple is missing after their house was crushed to pieces near the
town of Balestrand last night. Their house was situated near a river in a valley which a large avalanche of snow and mud followed after heavy rains. Some places had over 70 mm in 12 hours. Balestand is situated in Sogn og Fjordane county (fylke) where 33 roads are or was closed. Over 40 roads are closed in the counties of Hordaland, Sogn og Fjordane and Møre og Romsdal. See: http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/n...dane/1.7560446 www.nrk.no/sf www.bt.no Bjørn Sørheim |
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On Mar 22, 3:25*pm, "Bj rn S rheim"
wrote: A couple are missing after their house was crushed to pieces near the town of Balestrand last night. Their house was situated near a river in a valley which a large avalanche of snow and mud followed heavy rain. Some places had over 70 mm in 12 hours. Balestand is situated in Sogn og Fjordane county (fylke) where 33 roads are or was closed. Over 40 roads are closed in the counties of Hordaland, Sogn og Fjordane and M re og Romsdal. See:http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/n...no/sfwww.bt.no Interesting run of SSPs. No doubt you will be getting another earthquake when this anticyclone disperses or moves from over the UK. Ditto western and or southern Japan. (Yes I know they have been having a stream of 5M's or so. http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/eq/latest/index_EN?list=w) BTW Check your E-mail. I'm sending you a rather long file. |
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So where have you been lately?
I mean, do you have any comment on the mag. 9.0 quake in Japan? What caused it from you point of view? Bjørn Sørheim "Weatherlawyer" skrev i melding ... On Mar 22, 3:25 pm, "Bj rn S rheim" wrote: A couple are missing after their house was crushed to pieces near the town of Balestrand last night. Their house was situated near a river in a valley which a large avalanche of snow and mud followed heavy rain. Some places had over 70 mm in 12 hours. Balestand is situated in Sogn og Fjordane county (fylke) where 33 roads are or was closed. Over 40 roads are closed in the counties of Hordaland, Sogn og Fjordane and M re og Romsdal. See:http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/n...no/sfwww.bt.no Interesting run of SSPs. No doubt you will be getting another earthquake when this anticyclone disperses or moves from over the UK. Ditto western and or southern Japan. (Yes I know they have been having a stream of 5M's or so. http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/eq/latest/index_EN?list=w) BTW Check your E-mail. I'm sending you a rather long file. |
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On Mar 23, 11:23*pm, "Bj rn S rheim"
wrote: "Weatherlawyer" skrev i ... On Mar 22, 3:25 pm, "Bj rn S rheim" wrote: So where have you been lately? I mean, do you have any comment on the mag. 9.0 quake in Japan? I can't be bothered trying to educate a people who don't want to know. If I could speak Japanese I might look for a site in that language to post to. The Chinese are the most promising but as the country is run by gangsters who will bulldoze their grannies, there is a hell of a problem getting any feed back from them on earthquakes, they use string for concrete reinforcing bars and kill all the children they are not allowed to have. In Japana they built the schools with a completely different ethos and all the children are now orphans. Funny old world isn't it? Maybe they aught to get together? Funny thing, my first forecast a couple of decades ago, I wrote to some one in Japan - forget who. Some time later I read they were doing an earthquake drill for the time I gave. But then I found out they do them anyway in September. Just a coincidence and I think I was wrong in any case. What caused it from you point of view? The moon, dopey! Don't you read my posts too, neither? A couple are missing after their house was crushed to pieces near the town of Balestrand last night. Their house was situated near a river in a valley which a large avalanche of snow and mud followed heavy rain. Some places had over 70 mm in 12 hours. Balestand is situated in Sogn og Fjordane county (fylke) where 33 roads are or was closed. Over 40 roads are closed in the counties of Hordaland, Sogn og Fjordane and M re og Romsdal. See:http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/n...e/1.7560446www.... Interesting run of SSPs. No doubt you will be getting another earthquake when this anticyclone disperses or moves from over the UK. Ditto western and or southern Japan. (Yes I know they have been having a stream of 5M's or so. http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/eq/latest/index_EN?list=w) Keep an eye on the North Atlantic chart. That High over the UK is doing an odd dance. BTW Check your E-mail. I'm sending you a rather long file. Me too. Only not. I will have to sort it out again. That's what I have been working on. Originally I just wanted to compare the North Atlantic SSP with the Der Sed / NEIC lists but it just took over. When I first started uncovering these anomalies I wondered if they might be used to date stuff like historic storms like the one that destroyed the boats of the Chinese empire off Japan several centuries ago -around Tudor times I think. But then I realised that the North Atlantic Cycle was too upsetting to the lunar theory I had. But now I think that I have cracked the code that flummoxed the best of them; Newton and Thomson even Doogeson, though tides still elude me. But who needs more than tidal constants anyway? The thing is, now with Weatherlawyer's Theory of Everything; do I post it and give away the secrets to Unified Field Theory or do I hang on to it and try to get it published? I don't need to be stinking rich, just faintly pongancious would do. But who would take me seriously? You are the only one I have met that gives a damn. So I suppose I will end up posting it online and make eff all out of it. (And still be richer than Pharaoh.) To stand on the shoulders of giants and float free between god and men. Or take the money and run? Or both, if the case may be. This spell runs to the 26th and the following one is almost identical: Mar 19 @ 18:10 = Mar 26 @ 12:07 http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phase2001gmt.html Thus the T+60 -even to T+84 stands a very good chance of holding, bearing in mind it should be us suffering fogs and etc. not you. Or at least as far as I know, not just you. http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/..._pressure.html It is anomalous in more ways than one though and when it breaks there will be the devil to pay once more. As everybody knows. As Jesus said; When you see something standing in a place it shouldn't be standing, then flee for your life. (He was referring to politics -mind you, he also gave a pretty good forecast about earthquakes for the same time period.) I wonder if there is another super storm building for the antipodes. (I have cracked the code but I have yet to check it on a run.) There looks like something is stirring on the left of the chart: T+24 with a bullet but only a minor storm I think. A "TS", if that. I'll have to get the Canadian charts to look at your neck of the woods, Lapland just drops off the end of my world. I keep losing the link and the Canadian government's home page is a bugger to navigate to the SSPs with... Ho hum.... Don't fall down any crevasses. Ciao. |
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![]() "Weatherlawyer" skrev i melding ... On Mar 23, 11:23 pm, "Bj rn S rheim" wrote: "Weatherlawyer" skrev i ... On Mar 22, 3:25 pm, "Bj rn S rheim" wrote: What caused it from you point of view? The moon, dopey! Why do you say that? Is there a consensus about that, and among whom? I checked my planetary program (SkyMapPro) and it says that at the exact time of the 9.0 earthquake, the Moon was 396 310.1 km from the Earth. The average distance of the Moon is 384 405 km, so its gravitational effect was much less than normal at the time of the quake. Thanks for a long answer, anyway. Don't fall down any crevasses. Yes it do happen around here. One of my mountain friends perished that way... Ciao. Bjørn Sørheim |
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On Mar 24, 7:29*pm, "Bj rn S rheim"
wrote: "Weatherlawyer" skrev i ... On Mar 23, 11:23 pm, "Bj rn S rheim" wrote: What caused it from you point of view? The moon, dopey! Why do you say that? Is there a consensus about that, and among whom? I checked my planetary program (SkyMapPro) and it says that at the exact time of the 9.0 M. earthquake, the Moon was *396 310.1 km from the Earth. The average distance of the Moon is 384 405 km, so its gravitational effect was much less than normal at the time of the quake. Thanks for a long answer, anyway. Don't fall down any crevasses. Yes it do happen around here. One of my mountain friends perished that way... Sorry about that. The moon can't possibly raise a tide from a quarter million miles away just by gravity. There is obviously a step or two missing in that algorithm. The earth is 81 times heavier and an awful lot nearer the sea than the moon is. The Apollo rockets needed to be about five tenths of the way to the moon before the moon took over the pull, IIRC. Besides a lump of lead is far more attractive than a drop of water. Look at Newton's equations again. If the moon was capable of pulling the way it is supposed to, the earth would be a lot more oblate. For some reason I don't understand, the time of the phase of the moon sets up a standing wave that calls the Lows and the Highs into existance and controls their motions. It is obviously something to do with acoustics. It can't be anything else. Believe me I have tried to make the pieces fit, starting with contemporary misconceptions. In fact if god hadn't to disabuse me of odern ideas I'd have landed on the truth a long time ago. When you remove the impossible, what you are left with are very few and very obvious choices. But what do I know? I was going to post a couple of articles on my blog but the USB won't open unless I close down and reboot and my time is almost up on this computer so I will have time to rewrite them for next week. I was going to hang on to what I had about the Japanese quake to see about getting it published but now I think I'll just put that on my blog too. (I really must get that thing finished, there's so much I have put on it though it will be about a gigabyte long.) I'll post a link to this thread when I finish it. |
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I've been happy to leave you to your neurotic theories for quite
some time, but since there are newcomers to this group seeking information about the Japan quake, I feel it my duty to point out that 'Weatherlawyer' aka Michael McNeil aka McNut doesn't know his physics. He seems to think he can predict earthquakes around the globe based on the weather in England. Not exactly shining example of the the "bright ol' chap", ya think? I expect to be 'plonked' by him agian.... Brian -- http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? |
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![]() "Skywise" skrev i melding ... I've been happy to leave you to your neurotic theories for quite some time, but since there are newcomers to this group seeking information about the Japan quake, I feel it my duty to point out that 'Weatherlawyer' aka Michael McNeil aka McNut doesn't know his physics. He seems to think he can predict earthquakes around the globe based on the weather in England. Not exactly shining example of the the "bright ol' chap", ya think? I expect to be 'plonked' by him agian.... Brian The way you treat him. he has the right to be mad and hit back at the lot that bully him... It is incorrect to say that he predicts earthquakes from the weather in England. As far as I know he says that hurricanes (and fronts?) in the North Atlantic, toghether with tropical hurricanes around the globe can produce earthquakes. Besides astronomical parameters like proximity of solar- system bodies like theSun, Moon, Jupiter and other planets, what strong and complex variable forces are there at the Earth that can effect and set of earthquakes besides exactly a deep low/hurricane. I can see none. So actually a natural idea he has. Note also the Icelandic low is placed more or less exactly over a mid-ocean ridge - like no other. So you might ask the very interesting question: Did the icelandic low make Iceland? Like one have to rock a car to get it out of a slippery dump in snow, do the Icelandic low pump the magma out of the crust and mantle below Iceland to create and expand Iceland? Actually I suspect more and more so... And when a deep low pop out the mantle plume together the other layers that make up Iceland and the rest of the North Atlantic near the low, the expanded mass must push away at something. And that something is among other objects (plates) the Eurasian plate - that go all the way unimpeded to - the 'Pacific Ring of Fire', like Sumatra, Japan etc. Makes you think doesn't it...? Bjørn Sørheim |
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On Mar 28, 3:29*pm, "Bj rn S rheim"
wrote: "Skywise" skrev i .. . I've been happy to leave you to your neurotic theories for quite some time, but since there are newcomers to this group seeking information about the Japan quake, I feel it my duty to point out that 'Weatherlawyer' aka Michael McNeil aka McNut doesn't know his physics. He seems to think he can predict earthquakes around the globe based on the weather in England. Not exactly shining example of the the "bright ol' chap", ya think? I expect to be 'plonked' by him agian.... Brian The way you treat him. he has the right to be mad and hit back at the lot that bully him... It is incorrect to say that he predicts earthquakes from the weather in England. As far as I know he says that hurricanes (and fronts?) in the North Atlantic, toghether with tropical hurricanes around the globe can produce earthquakes. Besides astronomical parameters like proximity of solar- system bodies like theSun, *Moon, Jupiter and other planets, what strong *and complex variable forces are there at the Earth that can effect and set of earthquakes besides exactly a deep low/hurricane. I can see none. So actually a natural idea he has. Note also the Icelandic low is placed more or less exactly over a mid-ocean ridge - like no other. So you might ask the very interesting question: Did the icelandic low make Iceland? Like one have to rock a car to get it out of a slippery dump in snow, do the Icelandic low pump the magma out of the crust and mantle below Iceland to create and expand Iceland? Actually I suspect more and more so... And when a deep low pop out the mantle plume together the other layers that make up Iceland and the rest of the North Atlantic near the low, the expanded mass must push away at something. And that something is among other objects (plates) the Eurasian plate - that go all the way unimpeded *to - the 'Pacific Ring of Fire', like Sumatra, Japan etc. Makes you think doesn't it...? Bj rn S rheim He's also completely mad and any cursory monitoring of his prediction accuracy shows him up to be the complete charlatan that he is. Looking at 8 of his forecasts in 3 months, he managed a 14% accuracy - and the 14% was a very generous one from me. It's not worth monitoring anymore and anyway, W gets all upset and childish when I do. Don't be fooled Bjorn. Skywise is absolutely right; this is one very nutty fruitcake. if you see what I mean. |
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![]() "Dawlish" skrev i melding ... On Mar 28, 3:29 pm, "Bj rn S rheim" wrote: "Skywise" skrev i .. . I've been happy to leave you to your neurotic theories for quite some time, but since there are newcomers to this group seeking information about the Japan quake, I feel it my duty to point out that 'Weatherlawyer' aka Michael McNeil aka McNut doesn't know his physics. He seems to think he can predict earthquakes around the globe based on the weather in England. Not exactly shining example of the the "bright ol' chap", ya think? I expect to be 'plonked' by him agian.... Brian The way you treat him. he has the right to be mad and hit back at the lot that bully him... It is incorrect to say that he predicts earthquakes from the weather in England. As far as I know he says that hurricanes (and fronts?) in the North Atlantic, toghether with tropical hurricanes around the globe can produce earthquakes. Besides astronomical parameters like proximity of solar- system bodies like theSun, Moon, Jupiter and other planets, what strong and complex variable forces are there at the Earth that can effect and set of earthquakes besides exactly a deep low/hurricane. I can see none. So actually a natural idea he has. Note also the Icelandic low is placed more or less exactly over a mid-ocean ridge - like no other. So you might ask the very interesting question: Did the icelandic low make Iceland? Like one have to rock a car to get it out of a slippery dump in snow, do the Icelandic low pump the magma out of the crust and mantle below Iceland to create and expand Iceland? Actually I suspect more and more so... And when a deep low pop out the mantle plume together the other layers that make up Iceland and the rest of the North Atlantic near the low, the expanded mass must push away at something. And that something is among other objects (plates) the Eurasian plate - that go all the way unimpeded to - the 'Pacific Ring of Fire', like Sumatra, Japan etc. Makes you think doesn't it...? Bj rn S rheim He's also completely mad and any cursory monitoring of his prediction accuracy shows him up to be the complete charlatan that he is. Looking at 8 of his forecasts in 3 months, he managed a 14% accuracy - and the 14% was a very generous one from me. It's not worth monitoring anymore and anyway, W gets all upset and childish when I do. Don't be fooled Bjorn. Skywise is absolutely right; this is one very nutty fruitcake. if you see what I mean. As as said I don't think the basic idea is foolish at all. And taken into account the payoff, more than enormous you wold have to agree, being able to get away with much less death and damage when a quake strikes - it is worth going into quite a lot of ideas - quirky and mad as the may look at the outset. And I don't monitor his forecasting scores. I don't know where too look. To find someones post by searching Google Usenet posting is fairly fruitless nowadays, only a fraction show up for some reason. Bjørn Sørheim |
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