not looking good for drought ridden areas

"duffel coat" wrote in message
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not looking good for drought ridden areas

Indeed it is starting to look dire for the crop growing areas of southern
and eastern England. We have been fortunate up to now with relatively cool
temperatures and cloud cover restricting evaporation. But as higher
temperatures kick in due to dry ground leading to superadiabats and more
sunshine remaining moisture will disappear quickly and then we are in
trouble big time. I'm surprised not more has been made of it in the media,
but I suspect that will change once reality kicks in. Here on Dartmoor it is
not too bad at present, dry yes, but soils are moist an inch down and grass
is still green, however, river flows are decreasing, the bogs are firming up
and the grass has slowed down with parts of Exeter now turning brown. It
must be much worse already in the SE? The GloSea outputs refereed to by Jon
are not encouraging and now NetWeather have come on board with myself in
expecting continued blocking. July will be the key month IMO, that can be
quite cyclonic at times, if it doesn't break then, it will probably last
till the autumn by which time food prices will be through the roof and with
a weak pound, imports will be dear, people could start to actually become
hungry with all the other cuts and job losses kicking in. A potentially
devastating situation is unfolding.

Will
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On May 20, 9:27*am, "Will Hand" wrote:
"duffel coat" wrote in message

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not looking good for drought ridden areas

Indeed it is starting to look dire for the crop growing areas of southern
and eastern England. We have been fortunate up to now with relatively cool
temperatures and cloud cover restricting evaporation. But as higher
temperatures kick in due to dry ground leading to superadiabats and more
sunshine remaining moisture will disappear quickly and then we are in
trouble big time. I'm surprised not more has been made of it in the media,
but I suspect that will change once reality kicks in. Here on Dartmoor it is
not too bad at present, dry yes, but soils are moist an inch down and grass
is still green, however, river flows are decreasing, the bogs are firming up
and the grass has slowed down with parts of Exeter now turning brown. It
must be much worse already in the SE? The GloSea outputs refereed to by Jon
are not encouraging and now NetWeather have come on board with myself in
expecting continued blocking. July will be the key month IMO, that can be
quite cyclonic at times, if it doesn't break then, it will probably last
till the autumn by which time food prices will be through the roof and with
a weak pound, imports will be dear, people could start to actually become
hungry with all the other cuts and job losses kicking in. A potentially
devastating situation is unfolding.

Will
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What happened in 1976 incidentally? Was it as dire as that?

That outlook is enough to make you want to wish for a repeat of the
summers 2007 (without the flooding) though OT_rant I'd hope that if
it was that extremely dry the government would step in and do
something about it, ideally stop the cuts. It would beggar belief that
this government would actually prefer people to go hungry and let the
free market do what it will with food prices rather than stop the
cuts, but I suppose that's too much like common sense. /OT_rant) In
the meantime hope the summer is at least average in terms of rainfall
I guess...

Nick

On May 20, 9:27*am, "Will Hand" wrote:
"duffel coat" wrote in message

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not looking good for drought ridden areas

Indeed it is starting to look dire for the crop growing areas of southern
and eastern England. We have been fortunate up to now with relatively cool
temperatures and cloud cover restricting evaporation. But as higher
temperatures kick in due to dry ground leading to superadiabats and more
sunshine remaining moisture will disappear quickly and then we are in
trouble big time. I'm surprised not more has been made of it in the media,
but I suspect that will change once reality kicks in. Here on Dartmoor it is
not too bad at present, dry yes, but soils are moist an inch down and grass
is still green, however, river flows are decreasing, the bogs are firming up
and the grass has slowed down with parts of Exeter now turning brown. It
must be much worse already in the SE? The GloSea outputs refereed to by Jon
are not encouraging and now NetWeather have come on board with myself in
expecting continued blocking. July will be the key month IMO, that can be
quite cyclonic at times, if it doesn't break then, it will probably last
till the autumn by which time food prices will be through the roof and with
a weak pound, imports will be dear, people could start to actually become
hungry with all the other cuts and job losses kicking in. A potentially
devastating situation is unfolding.

Will
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That last sentence is a hysterical over-statement. If this - if
that. If your aunt's got balls she's your uncle. It's not as if I am
insulated by great wealth from any deleterious effects of the drought
- far from it. But I don't lose sleep over it, nor should anyone
else. In fact I rather like it; less lawn-mowing, among other things.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey, 556 ft.

"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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On May 20, 9:27 am, "Will Hand" wrote:
"duffel coat" wrote in message

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not looking good for drought ridden areas

Indeed it is starting to look dire for the crop growing areas of southern
and eastern England. We have been fortunate up to now with relatively cool
temperatures and cloud cover restricting evaporation. But as higher
temperatures kick in due to dry ground leading to superadiabats and more
sunshine remaining moisture will disappear quickly and then we are in
trouble big time. I'm surprised not more has been made of it in the media,
but I suspect that will change once reality kicks in. Here on Dartmoor it
is
not too bad at present, dry yes, but soils are moist an inch down and
grass
is still green, however, river flows are decreasing, the bogs are firming
up
and the grass has slowed down with parts of Exeter now turning brown. It
must be much worse already in the SE? The GloSea outputs refereed to by
Jon
are not encouraging and now NetWeather have come on board with myself in
expecting continued blocking. July will be the key month IMO, that can be
quite cyclonic at times, if it doesn't break then, it will probably last
till the autumn by which time food prices will be through the roof and
with
a weak pound, imports will be dear, people could start to actually become
hungry with all the other cuts and job losses kicking in. A potentially
devastating situation is unfolding.

Will
--

That last sentence is a hysterical over-statement. If this - if
that. If your aunt's got balls she's your uncle. It's not as if I am
insulated by great wealth from any deleterious effects of the drought
- far from it. But I don't lose sleep over it, nor should anyone
else. In fact I rather like it; less lawn-mowing, among other things.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey, 556 ft.
============

Tudor, it is no problem for me either as I grow my own veg. and have plenty
of resources. I also hate cutting grass, but for others less fortunate than
you and I it could well be the the tipping point given everything else that
is going on at present.

Will
--

"Will Hand" wrote in message
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"duffel coat" wrote in message
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not looking good for drought ridden areas

Indeed it is starting to look dire for the crop growing areas of southern
and eastern England. We have been fortunate up to now with relatively cool
temperatures and cloud cover restricting evaporation. But as higher
temperatures kick in due to dry ground leading to superadiabats and more
sunshine remaining moisture will disappear quickly and then we are in
trouble big time. I'm surprised not more has been made of it in the media,
but I suspect that will change once reality kicks in. Here on Dartmoor it
is not too bad at present, dry yes, but soils are moist an inch down and
grass is still green, however, river flows are decreasing, the bogs are
firming up and the grass has slowed down with parts of Exeter now turning
brown. It must be much worse already in the SE? The GloSea outputs
refereed to by Jon are not encouraging and now NetWeather have come on
board with myself in expecting continued blocking. July will be the key
month IMO, that can be quite cyclonic at times, if it doesn't break then,
it will probably last till the autumn by which time food prices will be
through the roof and with a weak pound, imports will be dear, people could
start to actually become hungry with all the other cuts and job losses
kicking in. A potentially devastating situation is unfolding.

Well every forecast seems to go on about how much 'we' need the rain.
No I don't need any more rain thank you very much as neither does
most of the country, area wise at least.
But of course 'we' means the bloody south, the most important part of
course, so everybody has to hear about it.
I don't recall this time last year anything much being made in the national
forecasts when NW England was the driest part of the country for several
months on end.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

"Col" wrote in message ...



Well every forecast seems to go on about how much 'we' need the rain.
No I don't need any more rain thank you very much as neither does
most of the country, area wise at least.
But of course 'we' means the bloody south, the most important part of
course, so everybody has to hear about it.
I don't recall this time last year anything much being made in the national
forecasts when NW England was the driest part of the country for several
months on end.
--
Have to agree Col, rainfall here for May already close to my average, and
still 11 days left!
Everyone keeps going on about how dry it is, not much sign of it yet.


Graham (North Staffs)

"Graham" wrote in message
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"Col" wrote in message ...



Well every forecast seems to go on about how much 'we' need the rain.
No I don't need any more rain thank you very much as neither does
most of the country, area wise at least.
But of course 'we' means the bloody south, the most important part of
course, so everybody has to hear about it.
I don't recall this time last year anything much being made in the
national
forecasts when NW England was the driest part of the country for several
months on end.
--
Have to agree Col, rainfall here for May already close to my average, and
still 11 days left!
Everyone keeps going on about how dry it is, not much sign of it yet.

It would be interesting to exactly what areas of the country have had
very low (say 25%) May rainfall so far.
SE of a line from the Exe to the Humber, perhaps?
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

On May 20, 6:34*pm, "Col" wrote:
"Graham" wrote in message

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"Col" *wrote in m....

Well every forecast seems to go on about how much 'we' need the rain.
No I don't need any more rain thank you very much as neither does
most of the country, area wise at least.
But of course 'we' means the bloody south, the most important part of
course, so everybody has to hear about it.
I don't recall this time last year anything much being made in the
national
forecasts when NW England was the driest part of the country for several
months on end.
--
Have to agree Col, rainfall here for May already close to my average, and
still 11 days left!
Everyone keeps going on about how dry it is, not much sign of it yet.

It would be interesting to exactly what areas of the country have had
very low (say 25%) May rainfall so far.
SE of a line from the Exe to the Humber, perhaps?
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl- Hide quoted text -

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It may be further to the southeast of that line if rainfall here is
any guide. Currently, 47% of the May average has fallen.

Dick Lovett
Charlbury (Oxfordshire Cotswolds).

Dick Lovett

Col wrote:


"Graham" wrote in message
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"Col" wrote in message ...



Well every forecast seems to go on about how much 'we' need the rain.
No I don't need any more rain thank you very much as neither does
most of the country, area wise at least.
But of course 'we' means the bloody south, the most important part of
course, so everybody has to hear about it.
I don't recall this time last year anything much being made in the national
forecasts when NW England was the driest part of the country for several
months on end.
-- Have to agree Col, rainfall here for May already close to my average,
and still 11 days left! Everyone keeps going on about how dry it is, not
much sign of it yet.

It would be interesting to exactly what areas of the country have had
very low (say 25%) May rainfall so far.
SE of a line from the Exe to the Humber, perhaps?

The total rainfall for May so far here in the Peak District is very close to
the ELTA for the whole month. We might well end up with above average rainfall
for the month. The countryside is extremely green. As Col says, it is very
different to the very dry conditions this time last year.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.