On Jun 17, 2:32*pm, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Jun 17, 8:27*am, Paul Hyett wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 at 22:24:34, duffel coat
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

On 16/06/2011 10:06 PM, Dawlish wrote:

You asked for an opinion. I gave you one. If you don't like it. don't
ask. This is complete BS. If it isn't; show me how.

*denier
*
I bet I'm not the only GW sceptic who is tired the 'denier' label, with
its hidden subtext of being almost equivalent to 'holocaust denier'.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

* * *It depends what you're sceptical about. *If you are saying the
earth has not got warmer then you are the equivalent of a flat-earther
and can be dismissed instantly. *If, on the other hand, you are saying
that man's contribution to this warming is less significant than the
current consensus you should provide strong evidence for your view.
Frankly, you are not in a position to do so. *Neither am I and nor is
almost everyone else on this group; it's a very technical subject, not
a belief or philosophy. *The only scepticism one can justify is to
query some of the doom-laden predictions one reads in the press
because these are nearly always made by people with little knowledge
of the subject.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

I completely agree with that. I'm not an expert either but I don't see
any need to doubt it. The reason why I am sceptical of the sceptics is
that they appear to often be on the right of the political spectrum,
and bring up arguments about 'liberal/socialist control' etc (yeah,
right, the same liberal control which is leading to spending cuts and
rubbish piling up on the streets of my home city lol) which makes me
believe that it's part of an anti-liberal political agenda. Maybe man-
made global warming doesn't exist, perhaps, but I'm more inclined to
believe a scientist than some Daily Express hack with an axe to grind.

Nick

Nick wrote:
On Jun 17, 2:32 pm, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Jun 17, 8:27 am, Paul Hyett wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 at 22:24:34, duffel coat
wrote in uk.sci.weather :
On 16/06/2011 10:06 PM, Dawlish wrote:
You asked for an opinion. I gave you one. If you don't like it. don't
ask. This is complete BS. If it isn't; show me how.
denier

I bet I'm not the only GW sceptic who is tired the 'denier' label, with
its hidden subtext of being almost equivalent to 'holocaust denier'.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)
It depends what you're sceptical about. If you are saying the
earth has not got warmer then you are the equivalent of a flat-earther
and can be dismissed instantly. If, on the other hand, you are saying
that man's contribution to this warming is less significant than the
current consensus you should provide strong evidence for your view.
Frankly, you are not in a position to do so. Neither am I and nor is
almost everyone else on this group; it's a very technical subject, not
a belief or philosophy. The only scepticism one can justify is to
query some of the doom-laden predictions one reads in the press
because these are nearly always made by people with little knowledge
of the subject.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

I completely agree with that. I'm not an expert either but I don't see
any need to doubt it. The reason why I am sceptical of the sceptics is
that they appear to often be on the right of the political spectrum,
and bring up arguments about 'liberal/socialist control' etc (yeah,
right, the same liberal control which is leading to spending cuts and
rubbish piling up on the streets of my home city lol) which makes me
believe that it's part of an anti-liberal political agenda. Maybe man-
made global warming doesn't exist, perhaps, but I'm more inclined to
believe a scientist than some Daily Express hack with an axe to grind.

Nick
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Yes, I agree with Tudor and you.
Dave

On Jun 17, 7:36*pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Nick wrote:
On Jun 17, 2:32 pm, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Jun 17, 8:27 am, Paul Hyett wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 at 22:24:34, duffel coat
wrote in uk.sci.weather :
On 16/06/2011 10:06 PM, Dawlish wrote:
You asked for an opinion. I gave you one. If you don't like it. don't
ask. This is complete BS. If it isn't; show me how.
*denier

I bet I'm not the only GW sceptic who is tired the 'denier' label, with
its hidden subtext of being almost equivalent to 'holocaust denier'.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)
* * *It depends what you're sceptical about. *If you are saying the
earth has not got warmer then you are the equivalent of a flat-earther
and can be dismissed instantly. *If, on the other hand, you are saying
that man's contribution to this warming is less significant than the
current consensus you should provide strong evidence for your view.
Frankly, you are not in a position to do so. *Neither am I and nor is
almost everyone else on this group; it's a very technical subject, not
a belief or philosophy. *The only scepticism one can justify is to
query some of the doom-laden predictions one reads in the press
because these are nearly always made by people with little knowledge
of the subject.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

I completely agree with that. I'm not an expert either but I don't see
any need to doubt it. The reason why I am sceptical of the sceptics is
that they appear to often be on the right of the political spectrum,
and bring up arguments about 'liberal/socialist control' etc (yeah,
right, the same liberal control which is leading to spending cuts and
rubbish piling up on the streets of my home city lol) which makes me
believe that it's part of an anti-liberal political agenda. Maybe man-
made global warming doesn't exist, perhaps, but I'm more inclined to
believe a scientist than some Daily Express hack with an axe to grind.

Nick

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Yes, I agree with Tudor and you.
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Yup. I'll third that. I like Americans though; staying with one and
travelling with him and his family across the good ol USA too! (with
luck and a lot of arranging!). There are some appalling rednecks
however. I worked in maine for 3 summers once upon a time and I just
wondered what lairs they crawled back into at night when they left the
bars.

On Jun 17, 9:00*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Jun 17, 7:36*pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:





Nick wrote:
On Jun 17, 2:32 pm, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Jun 17, 8:27 am, Paul Hyett wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 at 22:24:34, duffel coat
wrote in uk.sci.weather :
On 16/06/2011 10:06 PM, Dawlish wrote:
You asked for an opinion. I gave you one. If you don't like it. don't
ask. This is complete BS. If it isn't; show me how.
*denier

I bet I'm not the only GW sceptic who is tired the 'denier' label, with
its hidden subtext of being almost equivalent to 'holocaust denier'..
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)
* * *It depends what you're sceptical about. *If you are saying the
earth has not got warmer then you are the equivalent of a flat-earther
and can be dismissed instantly. *If, on the other hand, you are saying
that man's contribution to this warming is less significant than the
current consensus you should provide strong evidence for your view.
Frankly, you are not in a position to do so. *Neither am I and nor is
almost everyone else on this group; it's a very technical subject, not
a belief or philosophy. *The only scepticism one can justify is to
query some of the doom-laden predictions one reads in the press
because these are nearly always made by people with little knowledge
of the subject.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

I completely agree with that. I'm not an expert either but I don't see
any need to doubt it. The reason why I am sceptical of the sceptics is
that they appear to often be on the right of the political spectrum,
and bring up arguments about 'liberal/socialist control' etc (yeah,
right, the same liberal control which is leading to spending cuts and
rubbish piling up on the streets of my home city lol) which makes me
believe that it's part of an anti-liberal political agenda. Maybe man-
made global warming doesn't exist, perhaps, but I'm more inclined to
believe a scientist than some Daily Express hack with an axe to grind..

Nick

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Yes, I agree with Tudor and you.
Dave- Hide quoted text -

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Yup. I'll third that. I like Americans though; staying with one and
travelling with him and his family across the good ol USA too! (with
luck and a lot of arranging!). There are some appalling rednecks
however. I worked in maine for 3 summers once upon a time and I just
wondered what lairs they crawled back into at night when they left the
bars.- Hide quoted text -

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What the zuck does that mean, you like them and hate them; working
out the odds are we on how the people you want to be accepted by will
tip?

In message , Dave Cornwell
writes
of the subject.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.
I completely agree with that. I'm not an expert either but I don't
see
any need to doubt it. The reason why I am sceptical of the sceptics is
that they appear to often be on the right of the political spectrum,
and bring up arguments about 'liberal/socialist control' etc (yeah,
right, the same liberal control which is leading to spending cuts and
rubbish piling up on the streets of my home city lol) which makes me
believe that it's part of an anti-liberal political agenda. Maybe man-
made global warming doesn't exist, perhaps, but I'm more inclined to
believe a scientist than some Daily Express hack with an axe to grind.
Nick
-------------------
Yes, I agree with Tudor and you.
Dave


And me.
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Jim