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I notice on the 10 am radar on both IR and vis a very well defined but
completely isolated clump of thick cloud over the Midlands. I wondered
at first if there had been a fire. Not associated with any rain.
Dave

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That was mentioned on the morning forecasts Dave,tho you were probably not
up at that time....

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I notice on the 10 am radar on both IR and vis a very well defined but
completely isolated clump of thick cloud over the Midlands. I wondered at
first if there had been a fire. Not associated with any rain.
Dave



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"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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I notice on the 10 am radar on both IR and vis a very well defined but
completely isolated clump of thick cloud over the Midlands. I wondered at
first if there had been a fire. Not associated with any rain.
Dave


The patch of cloud to which you refer, Dave, is at about 6000ft-7000ft, and
can be traced back to yesterday's convective activity just east the Welsh
border. The convection was capped at that level, and produced a saturated
area which would probably have been maintained by an absence of dynamic
descent in that layer plus internal convective overturning as a result of
cloud top cooling.
A 3 hourly sequence of imagery can be found at:

http://www.woksat.info/etctg02m/indextg02m.html
--
Bernard Burton

Wokingham Berkshire.

Weather data and satellite images at:
http://www.woksat.info/wwp.html


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Bernard Burton wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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I notice on the 10 am radar on both IR and vis a very well defined but
completely isolated clump of thick cloud over the Midlands. I wondered at
first if there had been a fire. Not associated with any rain.
Dave


The patch of cloud to which you refer, Dave, is at about 6000ft-7000ft, and
can be traced back to yesterday's convective activity just east the Welsh
border. The convection was capped at that level, and produced a saturated
area which would probably have been maintained by an absence of dynamic
descent in that layer plus internal convective overturning as a result of
cloud top cooling.
A 3 hourly sequence of imagery can be found at:

http://www.woksat.info/etctg02m/indextg02m.html

----------------------
Thanks Bernard, for the explaination. It now seems to be diffusing
outwards and has in fact caused high level cloud here. A very
interesting image still, as the central area is still surrounded by its
own clear border.
....... and Ron, you are right ;-)
Dave
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On Jul 3, 12:44*pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Bernard Burton wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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I notice on the 10 am radar on both IR and vis a very well defined but
completely isolated clump of thick cloud over the Midlands. I wondered at
first if there had been a fire. Not associated with any rain.
Dave


The patch of cloud to which you refer, Dave, is at about 6000ft-7000ft, and
can be traced back to yesterday's convective activity just east the Welsh
border. The convection was capped at that level, and produced a saturated
area which would probably have been maintained by an absence of dynamic
descent in that layer plus internal convective overturning as a result of
cloud top cooling.
A 3 hourly sequence of imagery can be found at:


http://www.woksat.info/etctg02m/indextg02m.html


----------------------
Thanks Bernard, for the explaination. It now seems to be diffusing
outwards and has in fact caused high level cloud here. A very
interesting image still, as the central area is still surrounded by its
own clear border.
...... and Ron, you are right ;-)
Dave- Hide quoted text -

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A fascinating radar sequence. 3 hrs ago it was surrounded by cumulus .
Now the patch has presumably gone, as the area has been taken over by
cum. How interesting, Bernard, that it comes out at 6-7000 ft- to me
it could have been ground mist


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On Jul 3, 2:26*pm, haaark wrote:
On Jul 3, 12:44*pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:





Bernard Burton wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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I notice on the 10 am radar on both IR and vis a very well defined but
completely isolated clump of thick cloud over the Midlands. I wondered at
first if there had been a fire. Not associated with any rain.
Dave


The patch of cloud to which you refer, Dave, is at about 6000ft-7000ft, and
can be traced back to yesterday's convective activity just east the Welsh
border. The convection was capped at that level, and produced a saturated
area which would probably have been maintained by an absence of dynamic
descent in that layer plus internal convective overturning as a result of
cloud top cooling.
A 3 hourly sequence of imagery can be found at:


http://www.woksat.info/etctg02m/indextg02m.html


----------------------
Thanks Bernard, for the explaination. It now seems to be diffusing
outwards and has in fact caused high level cloud here. A very
interesting image still, as the central area is still surrounded by its
own clear border.
...... and Ron, you are right ;-)
Dave- Hide quoted text -


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A fascinating radar sequence. 3 hrs ago it was surrounded by cumulus .
Now the patch *has presumably gone, as the area has been taken over by
cum. How interesting, Bernard, that it comes out at 6-7000 ft- to me
it could have been ground mist- Hide quoted text -

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Didn't mean radar obviously! Meant vis. satellite
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haaark wrote:
On Jul 3, 12:44 pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Bernard Burton wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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I notice on the 10 am radar on both IR and vis a very well defined but
completely isolated clump of thick cloud over the Midlands. I wondered at
first if there had been a fire. Not associated with any rain.
Dave
The patch of cloud to which you refer, Dave, is at about 6000ft-7000ft, and
can be traced back to yesterday's convective activity just east the Welsh
border. The convection was capped at that level, and produced a saturated
area which would probably have been maintained by an absence of dynamic
descent in that layer plus internal convective overturning as a result of
cloud top cooling.
A 3 hourly sequence of imagery can be found at:
http://www.woksat.info/etctg02m/indextg02m.html

----------------------
Thanks Bernard, for the explaination. It now seems to be diffusing
outwards and has in fact caused high level cloud here. A very
interesting image still, as the central area is still surrounded by its
own clear border.
...... and Ron, you are right ;-)
Dave- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


A fascinating radar sequence. 3 hrs ago it was surrounded by cumulus .
Now the patch has presumably gone, as the area has been taken over by
cum. How interesting, Bernard, that it comes out at 6-7000 ft- to me
it could have been ground mist

----------------
Still interesting in that you usually see things changing in a linear
direction but this is expanding radially, like a slow motion explosion,
gradually engulfing most of England.
Dave
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"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
...
Bernard Burton wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
...
I notice on the 10 am radar on both IR and vis a very well defined but
completely isolated clump of thick cloud over the Midlands. I wondered
at first if there had been a fire. Not associated with any rain.
Dave


The patch of cloud to which you refer, Dave, is at about 6000ft-7000ft,
and can be traced back to yesterday's convective activity just east the
Welsh border. The convection was capped at that level, and produced a
saturated area which would probably have been maintained by an absence of
dynamic descent in that layer plus internal convective overturning as a
result of cloud top cooling.
A 3 hourly sequence of imagery can be found at:

http://www.woksat.info/etctg02m/indextg02m.html

----------------------
Thanks Bernard, for the explaination. It now seems to be diffusing
outwards and has in fact caused high level cloud here. A very interesting
image still, as the central area is still surrounded by its own clear
border.


Very strange looking.
Reminds me of those pictures you see of penicillin where there is
a clear area between the penicillin mould and the bacteria.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


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Col wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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Bernard Burton wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
...
I notice on the 10 am radar on both IR and vis a very well defined but
completely isolated clump of thick cloud over the Midlands. I wondered
at first if there had been a fire. Not associated with any rain.
Dave
The patch of cloud to which you refer, Dave, is at about 6000ft-7000ft,
and can be traced back to yesterday's convective activity just east the
Welsh border. The convection was capped at that level, and produced a
saturated area which would probably have been maintained by an absence of
dynamic descent in that layer plus internal convective overturning as a
result of cloud top cooling.
A 3 hourly sequence of imagery can be found at:

http://www.woksat.info/etctg02m/indextg02m.html

----------------------
Thanks Bernard, for the explaination. It now seems to be diffusing
outwards and has in fact caused high level cloud here. A very interesting
image still, as the central area is still surrounded by its own clear
border.


Very strange looking.
Reminds me of those pictures you see of penicillin where there is
a clear area between the penicillin mould and the bacteria.

----------------
Yes just like that. It would be nice to develop a local immunity to cloud!
Dave
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On 03/07/2011 11:17, Bernard Burton wrote:
"Dave wrote in message
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I notice on the 10 am radar on both IR and vis a very well defined but
completely isolated clump of thick cloud over the Midlands. I wondered at
first if there had been a fire. Not associated with any rain.
Dave


The patch of cloud to which you refer, Dave, is at about 6000ft-7000ft, and
can be traced back to yesterday's convective activity just east the Welsh
border. The convection was capped at that level, and produced a saturated
area which would probably have been maintained by an absence of dynamic
descent in that layer plus internal convective overturning as a result of
cloud top cooling.
A 3 hourly sequence of imagery can be found at:

http://www.woksat.info/etctg02m/indextg02m.html


I went out at 10am this morning, and was quite worried when I saw Ac
with fall streaks. I was thinking there was a possibility of showers
this afternoon. All that happen was Cu built up from around 11am and
spread out into Sc by the afternoon.

Joe Egginton
Wolverhampton
175m asl




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