Why do you do it? Please tell me why, I know there's a good few Met
Office employees here using this NG, so please tell me what goes on at
UKMO and do you agree with it?

What am I going on about? Okay here it is: as I sit here rained off
on a Sydenham Saturday I graze on the climate web looking for tasty
and sometimes damn right sour and sickening tit bits of Climate news
and as I try to keep abreast of things I see this on UKMO website you
know the one called 'Met Office and Climate Change'. So I have a
gander at their climate change pages and click on 'Climate Change Hot
Topic' link http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/news/topics/
and there I/you will find a litany of tripe supplied primarily by the
Guardian and the BBC.
One particular piece of tripe however really stuck in my craw "Stand
by the Standpipes, the drought is back" It links to an article by the
Guardian environmentalist journalist Fiona Harvey.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...rought-warning

Funnily enough I couldn't see one reference to Global Warming in
Fiona's article yet the Met Office are so keen to be seen thumping the
AGW tub that they immediately stick it in their AGW Hot Topics page,
this sort of tax payers funder propaganda is nauseating to say the
least but what really gets me is that the article is still linked
there on the UKMO AGW page and would read to a new visitor with no
knowledge of UK weather that we were going through some awful terrible
drought due to climate change. But the final straw that caused me to
retch was the fact we've had more than enough rain since that article
was written in June; even UKMO's summary for the month of June
contradicts and makes the article look inaccurate at beast and
downright misinformation and lies at worst . There should be a proviso
on that ridiculous hot topics page stating that 'rumours of an AGW
death threatening drought were greatly exaggerated and hysterically
premature.
So eager are the UKMO hierarchy to promote AGW they are now resorting
to being downright dishonest and deceitful.
Will anyone defend this embarrassing nonsense?
Here from the horses duplicitous mouth http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/

" June 2011
The month began on a fine, warm note, but the weather gradually became
more unsettled, with showers and some longer spells of rain. These
eased the very dry conditions across parts of eastern England. A short-
lived warm spell in the last week gave the highest temperatures of the
year so far. Temperatures overall were close to the 1971-2000 average,
although somewhat above in East Anglia and other eastern counties of
England and somewhat below in Northern Ireland and western Scotland.
It was the coolest June across the UK since 2001. The monthly rainfall
pattern reflects the showery nature of the month. Parts of southern
England, south Wales, Northern Ireland and southern and eastern
Scotland were wetter than normal. In contrast, some parts of the north
Midlands had a relatively dry month. Sunshine totals overall were
close to normal, varying from a little below in Northern Ireland and
most of Scotland to above normal from west Wales across to eastern
England."

On Jul 16, 4:00*pm, Lawrence13 wrote:
Why do you do it? Please tell me why, I know there's a good few Met
Office employees here using this NG, so please tell me what goes on at
UKMO and do you agree with it?

What am I going on about? *Okay here it is: as I sit here rained off
on a Sydenham Saturday I graze on the climate web looking for tasty
and sometimes damn right sour and sickening tit bits of Climate news
and as I *try to keep abreast of things I see this on UKMO website you
know the one called 'Met Office and Climate Change'. *So I have a
gander at their climate change pages and click on 'Climate Change Hot
Topic' link * *http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/news/topics/
and there I/you will find a litany of tripe supplied primarily by the
Guardian and the BBC.
One particular piece of tripe however really stuck in my craw *"Stand
by the Standpipes, the drought is back" *It links to an article by the
Guardian environmentalist journalist Fiona Harvey.http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...gions-given-dr...

Funnily enough I couldn't see one reference to Global Warming in
Fiona's article yet the Met Office are so keen to be seen thumping the
AGW tub that they immediately stick it in their AGW Hot Topics page,
this sort of tax payers funder propaganda is nauseating to say the
least but what really gets me is that the article is still linked
there on the UKMO AGW page and would read to a new visitor with no
knowledge of UK weather that we were going through some awful terrible
drought due to climate change. But the final straw that caused me to
retch was the fact we've had more than enough rain since that article
was written in June; even UKMO's summary for the month of June
contradicts and makes the article look inaccurate at beast and
downright misinformation and lies at worst . There should be a proviso
on that ridiculous hot topics page stating that 'rumours of an AGW
death threatening drought were greatly exaggerated and hysterically
premature.
So eager are the UKMO hierarchy to promote AGW they are now resorting
to *being downright dishonest and deceitful.
Will anyone defend this embarrassing nonsense?
Here from the horses duplicitous mouthhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/

" June 2011
The month began on a fine, warm note, but the weather gradually became
more unsettled, with showers and some longer spells of rain. These
eased the very dry conditions across parts of eastern England. A short-
lived warm spell in the last week gave the highest temperatures of the
year so far. Temperatures overall were close to the 1971-2000 average,
although somewhat above in East Anglia and other eastern counties of
England and somewhat below in Northern Ireland and western Scotland.
It was the coolest June across the UK since 2001. The monthly rainfall
pattern reflects the showery nature of the month. Parts of southern
England, south Wales, Northern Ireland and southern and eastern
Scotland were wetter than normal. In contrast, some parts of the north
Midlands had a relatively dry month. Sunshine totals overall were
close to normal, varying from a little below in Northern Ireland and
most of Scotland to above normal from west Wales across to eastern
England."

It was on June 7, when there were a lot of people, one prominently on
here, that were applying persistence to the conditions through May and
coming up with severe drought for the SE. The conditions were changing
as the hack wrote and the MetO had already picked up a change in its
forecasts, though the drought orders were issued when particular
criteria had been fulfilled. The difficulty is in the accuracy of long-
term forecasts, which is poor.

This was a Guardian hack who doesn't understand anything about long-
term forecasting accuracy, or its difficulties ( and it would have
"stuck in my craw" as well)..............but neither, unfortunately,
do you.

N U T T E R


S T U P I D

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CRY BABY


On 16/07/2011 4:17 PM, Dawlish wrote:
England."

It was on June 7, when there were a lot of people, one prominently on
here, that were applying persistence to the conditions through May and
coming up with severe drought for the SE. The conditions were changing
as the hack wrote and the MetO had already picked up a change in its
forecasts, though the drought orders were issued when particular
criteria had been fulfilled. The difficulty is in the accuracy of long-
term forecasts, which is poor.

This was a Guardian hack who doesn't understand anything about long-
term forecasting accuracy, or its difficulties ( and it would have
"stuck in my craw" as well)..............but neither, unfortunately,
do you.

On Jul 16, 4:17*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 16, 4:00*pm, Lawrence13 wrote:





Why do you do it? Please tell me why, I know there's a good few Met
Office employees here using this NG, so please tell me what goes on at
UKMO and do you agree with it?

What am I going on about? *Okay here it is: as I sit here rained off
on a Sydenham Saturday I graze on the climate web looking for tasty
and sometimes damn right sour and sickening tit bits of Climate news
and as I *try to keep abreast of things I see this on UKMO website you
know the one called 'Met Office and Climate Change'. *So I have a
gander at their climate change pages and click on 'Climate Change Hot
Topic' link * *http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/news/topics/
and there I/you will find a litany of tripe supplied primarily by the
Guardian and the BBC.
One particular piece of tripe however really stuck in my craw *"Stand
by the Standpipes, the drought is back" *It links to an article by the
Guardian environmentalist journalist Fiona Harvey.http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...gions-given-dr...

Funnily enough I couldn't see one reference to Global Warming in
Fiona's article yet the Met Office are so keen to be seen thumping the
AGW tub that they immediately stick it in their AGW Hot Topics page,
this sort of tax payers funder propaganda is nauseating to say the
least but what really gets me is that the article is still linked
there on the UKMO AGW page and would read to a new visitor with no
knowledge of UK weather that we were going through some awful terrible
drought due to climate change. But the final straw that caused me to
retch was the fact we've had more than enough rain since that article
was written in June; even UKMO's summary for the month of June
contradicts and makes the article look inaccurate at beast and
downright misinformation and lies at worst . There should be a proviso
on that ridiculous hot topics page stating that 'rumours of an AGW
death threatening drought were greatly exaggerated and hysterically
premature.
So eager are the UKMO hierarchy to promote AGW they are now resorting
to *being downright dishonest and deceitful.
Will anyone defend this embarrassing nonsense?
Here from the horses duplicitous mouthhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/

" June 2011
The month began on a fine, warm note, but the weather gradually became
more unsettled, with showers and some longer spells of rain. These
eased the very dry conditions across parts of eastern England. A short-
lived warm spell in the last week gave the highest temperatures of the
year so far. Temperatures overall were close to the 1971-2000 average,
although somewhat above in East Anglia and other eastern counties of
England and somewhat below in Northern Ireland and western Scotland.
It was the coolest June across the UK since 2001. The monthly rainfall
pattern reflects the showery nature of the month. Parts of southern
England, south Wales, Northern Ireland and southern and eastern
Scotland were wetter than normal. In contrast, some parts of the north
Midlands had a relatively dry month. Sunshine totals overall were
close to normal, varying from a little below in Northern Ireland and
most of Scotland to above normal from west Wales across to eastern
England."

It was on June 7, when there were a lot of people, one prominently on
here, that were applying persistence to the conditions through May and
coming up with severe drought for the SE. The conditions were changing
as the hack wrote and the MetO had already picked up a change in its
forecasts, though the drought orders were issued when particular
criteria had been fulfilled. The difficulty is in the accuracy of long-
term forecasts, which is poor.

This was a Guardian hack who doesn't understand anything about long-
term forecasting accuracy, or its difficulties ( and it would have
"stuck in my craw" as well)..............but neither, unfortunately,
do you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Okay Mr Popularity do you feel that UKMO are right to leave that
article there in the wicked humans cause climate change hot topics
page?

I don't and as my taxes help pay UKMO I believe I have a right to
point this out. Mind you I did say met office employees not a jumped
up geography teacher now working for a local authority.

By the way idiot if you feel that Fiona Harvey is such a hack then
that makes UKMO's decision to scaremonger using her article even more
deplorable-doesn't it? . You clearly have no sense of logic and bare
all the hallmarks of someone who has learned 'how to look intelligent
by numbers'-no doubt a Chad Valley kit given to you for your 11th
birthd

On Jul 16, 4:51*pm, Lawrence13 wrote:
On Jul 16, 4:17*pm, Dawlish wrote:





On Jul 16, 4:00*pm, Lawrence13 wrote:

Why do you do it? Please tell me why, I know there's a good few Met
Office employees here using this NG, so please tell me what goes on at
UKMO and do you agree with it?

What am I going on about? *Okay here it is: as I sit here rained off
on a Sydenham Saturday I graze on the climate web looking for tasty
and sometimes damn right sour and sickening tit bits of Climate news
and as I *try to keep abreast of things I see this on UKMO website you
know the one called 'Met Office and Climate Change'. *So I have a
gander at their climate change pages and click on 'Climate Change Hot
Topic' link * *http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/news/topics/
and there I/you will find a litany of tripe supplied primarily by the
Guardian and the BBC.
One particular piece of tripe however really stuck in my craw *"Stand
by the Standpipes, the drought is back" *It links to an article by the
Guardian environmentalist journalist Fiona Harvey.http://www.guardian..co.uk/environme...gions-given-dr...

Funnily enough I couldn't see one reference to Global Warming in
Fiona's article yet the Met Office are so keen to be seen thumping the
AGW tub that they immediately stick it in their AGW Hot Topics page,
this sort of tax payers funder propaganda is nauseating to say the
least but what really gets me is that the article is still linked
there on the UKMO AGW page and would read to a new visitor with no
knowledge of UK weather that we were going through some awful terrible
drought due to climate change. But the final straw that caused me to
retch was the fact we've had more than enough rain since that article
was written in June; even UKMO's summary for the month of June
contradicts and makes the article look inaccurate at beast and
downright misinformation and lies at worst . There should be a proviso
on that ridiculous hot topics page stating that 'rumours of an AGW
death threatening drought were greatly exaggerated and hysterically
premature.
So eager are the UKMO hierarchy to promote AGW they are now resorting
to *being downright dishonest and deceitful.
Will anyone defend this embarrassing nonsense?
Here from the horses duplicitous mouthhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/

" June 2011
The month began on a fine, warm note, but the weather gradually became
more unsettled, with showers and some longer spells of rain. These
eased the very dry conditions across parts of eastern England. A short-
lived warm spell in the last week gave the highest temperatures of the
year so far. Temperatures overall were close to the 1971-2000 average,
although somewhat above in East Anglia and other eastern counties of
England and somewhat below in Northern Ireland and western Scotland.
It was the coolest June across the UK since 2001. The monthly rainfall
pattern reflects the showery nature of the month. Parts of southern
England, south Wales, Northern Ireland and southern and eastern
Scotland were wetter than normal. In contrast, some parts of the north
Midlands had a relatively dry month. Sunshine totals overall were
close to normal, varying from a little below in Northern Ireland and
most of Scotland to above normal from west Wales across to eastern
England."

It was on June 7, when there were a lot of people, one prominently on
here, that were applying persistence to the conditions through May and
coming up with severe drought for the SE. The conditions were changing
as the hack wrote and the MetO had already picked up a change in its
forecasts, though the drought orders were issued when particular
criteria had been fulfilled. The difficulty is in the accuracy of long-
term forecasts, which is poor.

This was a Guardian hack who doesn't understand anything about long-
term forecasting accuracy, or its difficulties ( and it would have
"stuck in my craw" as well)..............but neither, unfortunately,
do you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Okay Mr Popularity do you feel that UKMO are right to leave that
article there in the wicked humans cause climate change hot topics
page?

I don't and as my taxes help pay UKMO I believe I have a right to
point this out. Mind you I did say met office employees not a jumped
up geography teacher now working for a local authority.

By the way idiot if you feel that Fiona Harvey is such a hack then
that makes UKMO's decision to scaremonger using her article even more
deplorable-doesn't it? . You clearly have no sense of logic and bare
all the hallmarks of someone who has learned 'how to look intelligent
by numbers'-no doubt a Chad Valley kit given to you for your 11th
birthd- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Whatever you wish to believe Lawrence. Whatever you wish to believe.
See you again when you post some more idiocy. *))

On Jul 16, 5:25*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Jul 16, 4:51*pm, Lawrence13 wrote:





On Jul 16, 4:17*pm, Dawlish wrote:

On Jul 16, 4:00*pm, Lawrence13 wrote:

Why do you do it? Please tell me why, I know there's a good few Met
Office employees here using this NG, so please tell me what goes on at
UKMO and do you agree with it?

What am I going on about? *Okay here it is: as I sit here rained off
on a Sydenham Saturday I graze on the climate web looking for tasty
and sometimes damn right sour and sickening tit bits of Climate news
and as I *try to keep abreast of things I see this on UKMO website you
know the one called 'Met Office and Climate Change'. *So I have a
gander at their climate change pages and click on 'Climate Change Hot
Topic' link * *http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/news/topics/
and there I/you will find a litany of tripe supplied primarily by the
Guardian and the BBC.
One particular piece of tripe however really stuck in my craw *"Stand
by the Standpipes, the drought is back" *It links to an article by the
Guardian environmentalist journalist Fiona Harvey.http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...gions-given-dr...

Funnily enough I couldn't see one reference to Global Warming in
Fiona's article yet the Met Office are so keen to be seen thumping the
AGW tub that they immediately stick it in their AGW Hot Topics page,
this sort of tax payers funder propaganda is nauseating to say the
least but what really gets me is that the article is still linked
there on the UKMO AGW page and would read to a new visitor with no
knowledge of UK weather that we were going through some awful terrible
drought due to climate change. But the final straw that caused me to
retch was the fact we've had more than enough rain since that article
was written in June; even UKMO's summary for the month of June
contradicts and makes the article look inaccurate at beast and
downright misinformation and lies at worst . There should be a proviso
on that ridiculous hot topics page stating that 'rumours of an AGW
death threatening drought were greatly exaggerated and hysterically
premature.
So eager are the UKMO hierarchy to promote AGW they are now resorting
to *being downright dishonest and deceitful.
Will anyone defend this embarrassing nonsense?
Here from the horses duplicitous mouthhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/

" June 2011
The month began on a fine, warm note, but the weather gradually became
more unsettled, with showers and some longer spells of rain. These
eased the very dry conditions across parts of eastern England. A short-
lived warm spell in the last week gave the highest temperatures of the
year so far. Temperatures overall were close to the 1971-2000 average,
although somewhat above in East Anglia and other eastern counties of
England and somewhat below in Northern Ireland and western Scotland..
It was the coolest June across the UK since 2001. The monthly rainfall
pattern reflects the showery nature of the month. Parts of southern
England, south Wales, Northern Ireland and southern and eastern
Scotland were wetter than normal. In contrast, some parts of the north
Midlands had a relatively dry month. Sunshine totals overall were
close to normal, varying from a little below in Northern Ireland and
most of Scotland to above normal from west Wales across to eastern
England."

It was on June 7, when there were a lot of people, one prominently on
here, that were applying persistence to the conditions through May and
coming up with severe drought for the SE. The conditions were changing
as the hack wrote and the MetO had already picked up a change in its
forecasts, though the drought orders were issued when particular
criteria had been fulfilled. The difficulty is in the accuracy of long-
term forecasts, which is poor.

This was a Guardian hack who doesn't understand anything about long-
term forecasting accuracy, or its difficulties ( and it would have
"stuck in my craw" as well)..............but neither, unfortunately,
do you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Okay Mr Popularity do you feel that UKMO are right to leave that
article there in the wicked humans cause climate change hot topics
page?

I don't and as my taxes help pay UKMO I believe I have a right to
point this out. Mind you I did say met office employees not a jumped
up geography teacher now working for a local authority.

By the way idiot if you feel that Fiona Harvey is such a hack then
that makes UKMO's decision to scaremonger using her article even more
deplorable-doesn't it? . You clearly have no sense of logic and bare
all the hallmarks of someone who has learned 'how to look intelligent
by numbers'-no doubt a Chad Valley kit given to you for your 11th
birthd- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Whatever you wish to believe Lawrence. Whatever you wish to believe.
See you again when you post some more idiocy. *))- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How come you manage to turn every topic back to the the subject of you
time and time again.

Th thread is about UKMO not you, now **** off you horrid little nerd.

hey i found a great search query, sorry entertainment

add dawlish + nutter together and what do you get?
padded walls anyone?


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On 16/07/2011 6:42 PM, Lawrence13 wrote:


How come you manage to turn every topic back to the the subject of you
time and time again.

Th thread is about UKMO not you, now **** off you horrid little nerd.

On Jul 17, 3:21*am, "alt.stupid.denier.nutter"
wrote:
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S T U P I D

WHINE WHINE
WHINE WHINE
WHINE WHINE
WHINE WHINE
WHINE WHINE

CRY BABY

On 16/07/2011 4:17 PM, Dawlish wrote:
England."





It was on June 7, when there were a lot of people, one prominently on
here, that were applying persistence to the conditions through May and
coming up with severe drought for the SE. The conditions were changing
as the hack wrote and the MetO had already picked up a change in its
forecasts, though the drought orders were issued when particular
criteria had been fulfilled. The difficulty is in the accuracy of long-
term forecasts, which is poor.

This was a Guardian hack who doesn't understand anything about long-
term forecasting accuracy, or its difficulties ( and it would have
"stuck in my craw" as well)..............but neither, unfortunately,
do you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Are you mental issues congenital?

On Jul 16, 8:26*pm, Rupert Wood wrote:
On Jul 17, 3:21*am, "alt.stupid.denier.nutter"





wrote:
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On 16/07/2011 4:17 PM, Dawlish wrote:
England."

It was on June 7, when there were a lot of people, one prominently on
here, that were applying persistence to the conditions through May and
coming up with severe drought for the SE. The conditions were changing
as the hack wrote and the MetO had already picked up a change in its
forecasts, though the drought orders were issued when particular
criteria had been fulfilled. The difficulty is in the accuracy of long-
term forecasts, which is poor.

This was a Guardian hack who doesn't understand anything about long-
term forecasting accuracy, or its difficulties ( and it would have
"stuck in my craw" as well)..............but neither, unfortunately,
do you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Are you mental issues congenital?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Would you like to try that again when your'e sober.

On Jul 16, 4:00*pm, Lawrence13 wrote:
Why do you do it? Please tell me why, I know there's a good few Met
Office employees here using this NG, so please tell me what goes on at
UKMO and do you agree with it?

What am I going on about? *Okay here it is: as I sit here rained off
on a Sydenham Saturday I graze on the climate web looking for tasty
and sometimes damn right sour and sickening tit bits of Climate news
and as I *try to keep abreast of things I see this on UKMO website you
know the one called 'Met Office and Climate Change'. *So I have a
gander at their climate change pages and click on 'Climate Change Hot
Topic' link * *http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/news/topics/
and there I/you will find a litany of tripe supplied primarily by the
Guardian and the BBC.
One particular piece of tripe however really stuck in my craw *"Stand
by the Standpipes, the drought is back" *It links to an article by the
Guardian environmentalist journalist Fiona Harvey.http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...gions-given-dr...

Funnily enough I couldn't see one reference to Global Warming in
Fiona's article yet the Met Office are so keen to be seen thumping the
AGW tub that they immediately stick it in their AGW Hot Topics page,
this sort of tax payers funder propaganda is nauseating to say the
least but what really gets me is that the article is still linked
there on the UKMO AGW page and would read to a new visitor with no
knowledge of UK weather that we were going through some awful terrible
drought due to climate change. But the final straw that caused me to
retch was the fact we've had more than enough rain since that article
was written in June; even UKMO's summary for the month of June
contradicts and makes the article look inaccurate at beast and
downright misinformation and lies at worst . There should be a proviso
on that ridiculous hot topics page stating that 'rumours of an AGW
death threatening drought were greatly exaggerated and hysterically
premature.
So eager are the UKMO hierarchy to promote AGW they are now resorting
to *being downright dishonest and deceitful.
Will anyone defend this embarrassing nonsense?
Here from the horses duplicitous mouthhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/

" June 2011
The month began on a fine, warm note, but the weather gradually became
more unsettled, with showers and some longer spells of rain. These
eased the very dry conditions across parts of eastern England. A short-
lived warm spell in the last week gave the highest temperatures of the
year so far. Temperatures overall were close to the 1971-2000 average,
although somewhat above in East Anglia and other eastern counties of
England and somewhat below in Northern Ireland and western Scotland.
It was the coolest June across the UK since 2001. The monthly rainfall
pattern reflects the showery nature of the month. Parts of southern
England, south Wales, Northern Ireland and southern and eastern
Scotland were wetter than normal. In contrast, some parts of the north
Midlands had a relatively dry month. Sunshine totals overall were
close to normal, varying from a little below in Northern Ireland and
most of Scotland to above normal from west Wales across to eastern
England."

Back to the point of your initial post and ignoring the bile that
followed my, quite reasonable, criticism. The MetO were absolutely
correct to issue drought warnings at the time, as they are well aware
that you can't trust *any* long-term forecasts and what is shown on
the models is there for 10-16 days max. The weather could have turned
back dry and warm again straight afterwards and many, including people
on here, were saying it would.